RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P 2P
Akamai or not, microsoft is overwhelmed by the demand for SP2, and today is giving the message listed below on windowsupdate: Download and install it now - Currently not available We are currently experiencing a high level of demand for Windows XP Service Pack 2, so please check back later for availability. We apologize for any inconvenience. If you prefer to obtain SP2 another way, the easiest way to get Service Pack 2 is to turn on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP and it will be downloaded when you are connected to the Internet without you having to take any further action. So then I thought about getting it from the torrent at sp2torrent.com, but sadly microsoft has made them remove the torrent... -----Original Message----- From: Byron L. Hicks [mailto:bhicks@nmsu.edu] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:21 PM To: Jeff Wheeler; Henry Linneweh Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Not true. For those of us who host Akamai servers, we could download SP2 with no problems. We did not need P2P, or MSDN. In fact, I would be very reluctant to trust a Windows update downloaded via P2P. -- Byron L. Hicks Network Engineer NMSU ICT On 8/30/04 12:43 PM, "Jeff Wheeler" <jwheeler@usip.org> wrote:
My two cents: When Windows XP SP2 was released the only way to get it (for those of us not part of MSDN at least) was via P2P. The same has been true for countless other large but important software releases on various platforms (particularly ones like Linux that aren't backed by huge corporations with tons of bandwidth to host these sorts of files).
Point is? P2P is extremely valuable for the timely and cost-effective delivery of critical updates to the masses.
-- Jeff Wheeler Postmaster, Network Admin US Institute of Peace
On Aug 30, 2004, at 2:27 PM, Henry Linneweh wrote:
So I would like some professional expert opinion to give her on this issue since it will effect the copyright inducement bill. Real benefits for production and professional usage of this technology.
-Henry
In article <992E533DBE35D11188960060083748C8044A590B@cliff.confluence.com>, Brian Battle <nanog@confluence.com> writes
Akamai or not, microsoft is overwhelmed by the demand for SP2, and today is giving the message listed below on windowsupdate:
Download and install it now - Currently not available We are currently experiencing a high level of demand for Windows XP Service Pack 2, so please check back later for availability. We apologize for any inconvenience. If you prefer to obtain SP2 another way, the easiest way to get Service Pack 2 is to turn on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP and it will be downloaded when you are connected to the Internet without you having to take any further action.
So then I thought about getting it from the torrent at sp2torrent.com, but sadly microsoft has made them remove the torrent...
I have a solution, but it's expensive. A url for the whole 266MB download (and not the smaller selective download that Windows Update would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and nothing arriving. -- Roland Perry
<quote who="Roland Perry">
I have a solution, but it's expensive. A url for the whole 266MB download (and not the smaller selective download that Windows Update would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and nothing arriving.
Microsoft isn't hiding the link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0-73cf11f... linked from: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/winxpsp2.mspx (well, click "get the service pack" and then "download") Just because sp2torrent.com is down doesn't mean the rest of the torrent world is. Supernova.org seems to have some links to an SP2 torrent or two. as usual, ymmv, davidu ---------------------------------------------------- David A. Ulevitch - Founder, EveryDNS.Net http://david.ulevitch.com -- http://everydns.net ----------------------------------------------------
In article <49264.24.5.40.13.1094027638.davidu@everydns.net>, David A. Ulevitch <davidu@everydns.net> writes
Microsoft isn't hiding the link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0-73cf11f...
linked from: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/winxpsp2.mspx (well, click "get the service pack" and then "download")
I suppose my beef here is that they go on to say: "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A smaller, more appropriate download is now available on Windows Update." Except it isn't. (Nor was it a week ago). I'm an IT professional, but only one of my PCs is running XP. And it's a full-price retail copy, not a bundled-OEM or upgrade. Hence me feeling left out when I'm told that "IT professionals" have already been allowed their Windows-update. As we are told that this is in part a security update, anyone running a network should be worried at the difficulty some of their users are having getting hold of it. -- Roland Perry
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, David A. Ulevitch wrote:
would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and nothing arriving.
Microsoft isn't hiding the link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0-73cf11f...
CompUSA is offering to install XP SP2 on any Windows XP computer for free if you bring your computer to any of their stores. Expect them to use the opportunity to try to sell you some upgrades or security software. You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6 weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the mail in about a week. There has been talk about Microsoft XP SP2 CD's being distribued through various consumer and business electronics stores. But I haven't seen any yet.
The CD's are supposed to hit Comp USA and Best BUy within the next month or two for SP2. The download link in this email should work fine for you even though it is the large network install if you really need it and have broadband go for it. On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 03:59, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, David A. Ulevitch wrote:
would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and nothing arriving.
Microsoft isn't hiding the link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0-73cf11f...
CompUSA is offering to install XP SP2 on any Windows XP computer for free if you bring your computer to any of their stores. Expect them to use the opportunity to try to sell you some upgrades or security software.
You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6 weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the mail in about a week.
There has been talk about Microsoft XP SP2 CD's being distribued through various consumer and business electronics stores. But I haven't seen any yet.
Thornton Cierra Group www.cierragroup.com Efficient Licensing and Consulting
In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0409010642360.524@clifden.donelan.com>, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> writes
You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6 weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the mail in about a week.
Is distribution from all their worldwide offices, or will users outside the USA have to wait for international delivery? -- Roland Perry
They will have to wait for international delivery. On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 04:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0409010642360.524@clifden.donelan.com>, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> writes
You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6 weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the mail in about a week.
Is distribution from all their worldwide offices, or will users outside the USA have to wait for international delivery? Thornton Cierra Group www.cierragroup.com Efficient Licensing and Consulting
Not that I'm trying to put words in your mouth, but I believe you meant suprnova.org which is a BitTorrent site (supernova.org is not a bittorrent site). Check out this link for a list of other BitTorrent sites and applications: http://kevinrose.typepad.com/kr/2004/07/darktip_the_bes.html -- Jeff Wheeler Postmaster, Network Admin US Institute of Peace On Sep 1, 2004, at 4:33 AM, David A. Ulevitch wrote:
<quote who="Roland Perry">
I have a solution, but it's expensive. A url for the whole 266MB download (and not the smaller selective download that Windows Update would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and nothing arriving.
Microsoft isn't hiding the link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0 -73cf11fdcdf8/WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe
linked from: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/ winxpsp2.mspx (well, click "get the service pack" and then "download")
Just because sp2torrent.com is down doesn't mean the rest of the torrent world is. Supernova.org seems to have some links to an SP2 torrent or two.
as usual, ymmv, davidu
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