I just took a peek at the Gomes Gopher shirt. IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen. No matter which operator is depicted, someone could construe it as being racially/ personally defamitory. This would prevent many of us from wearing it in the work-place. At 08:00 AM 10/9/98 -1000, scott w wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Harold Willison wrote:
I have a pretty good source for custom tshirts.. Picture on the front or back?
On the back. Pictures on the front are too geeky. "Let Fiber Live" under the picture?
Any wording on them? If so.. what?
Small font size and small caps "nanog" on the front right top, no pocket.
You know, wearing this in public is gonna cause "conversation" with the heavy equipment operators we may meet along the way... :)
___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com>rmeyer@mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky
Why not have a gopher driving the backhoe? Big buck teeth, a psychotic look on his face, and maybe a little Amtrak hardhat... Blake Willis Network Engineer CAIS Internet On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
I just took a peek at the Gomes Gopher shirt.
IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen.
No matter which operator is depicted, someone could construe it as being racially/ personally defamitory. This would prevent many of us from wearing it in the work-place.
At 08:00 AM 10/9/98 -1000, scott w wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Harold Willison wrote:
I have a pretty good source for custom tshirts.. Picture on the front or back?
On the back. Pictures on the front are too geeky. "Let Fiber Live" under the picture?
Any wording on them? If so.. what?
Small font size and small caps "nanog" on the front right top, no pocket.
You know, wearing this in public is gonna cause "conversation" with the heavy equipment operators we may meet along the way... :)
At 11:13 AM -0700 10/9/98, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
I just took a peek at the Gomes Gopher shirt.
IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen.
No matter which operator is depicted, someone could construe it as being racially/ personally defamitory. This would prevent many of us from wearing it in the work-place.
People don't kill fiber, backhoes kill fiber. Support the right to keep and bear backhoes.
Also please point the crosshairs at the motor compartment and not the human operator compartment. Cool! Let's all get some shirts that *really* express our innermost feelings... :) scott ================================================================== At 11:13 AM -0700 10/9/98, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: I just took a peek at the Gomes Gopher shirt. IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen.
#include <stddisclaim.h> <delurk> Also, let's make sure that the color of the backhoe doesn't depict the color used by any particular manufacturer of backhoes, as they might want to sue based on defamation of their product/brand name. Reall, kids, if you're that bent on creating a politically correct expression of your negative emotions toward backhoes, just give up! If this society has advanced to the point where one can't make fun of anything without the fear of being sued/fired/shot stopping them, then it's time to depopulate and start over. Being a minority (having common sense and intelligence), I am offended by this "cleansing" process that seems to have taken control of a little joke. I'm going to sue! <operational content> no logging console (/operational content> </delurk> On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 09:17:03AM -1000, scott w wrote:
Also please point the crosshairs at the motor compartment and not the human operator compartment. Cool! Let's all get some shirts that *really* express our innermost feelings... :)
scott
================================================================== At 11:13 AM -0700 10/9/98, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: I just took a peek at the Gomes Gopher shirt.
IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen.
-- Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. -- Henry Spencer
Like it as not, here in California, if we were to present a female gopher, for example, some pseudo-militant femanist would see a definite opportunity for filing a sexual-harassment case. Likewise, we would not want the latino community to find such financial opportunity. Yes, we indeed live in such a world. I would really like to wear such a shirt in public without getting bruised, battered, beaten, or sued. I can usually do something about the first three, but the last one is *real* expensive. At 08:08 PM 10/10/98 +0000, Sam Thomas wrote:
#include <stddisclaim.h> <delurk>
Also, let's make sure that the color of the backhoe doesn't depict the color used by any particular manufacturer of backhoes, as they might want to sue based on defamation of their product/brand name.
Reall, kids, if you're that bent on creating a politically correct expression of your negative emotions toward backhoes, just give up! If this society has advanced to the point where one can't make fun of anything without the fear of being sued/fired/shot stopping them, then it's time to depopulate and start over. Being a minority (having common sense and intelligence), I am offended by this "cleansing" process that seems to have taken control of a little joke. I'm going to sue!
<operational content> no logging console (/operational content>
</delurk>
On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 09:17:03AM -1000, scott w wrote:
Also please point the crosshairs at the motor compartment and not the human operator compartment. Cool! Let's all get some shirts that *really* express our innermost feelings... :)
scott
================================================================== At 11:13 AM -0700 10/9/98, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: I just took a peek at the Gomes Gopher shirt.
IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen.
-- Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. -- Henry Spencer
___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com>rmeyer@mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky
On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 03:22:26PM -0700, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
Like it as not, here in California, if we were to present a female gopher,
Gopher doesn't have a gender. Nor does the World Wide Web, FTP, e-mail, or any other Internet service. (I'm trying really hard to think of an operational question that I can ask to bring this post back on topic. I can't right now, unfortunately.) -- I'm not paranoid. Nor are any of the people who are out to get me.
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen.
Those enclosed compartments have headlights mounted on them that look like eyes. Add a nice evil grin to the front somewhere and you complete the caricature of machinery run amok. -- Michael Dillon - E-mail: michael@memra.com Check the website for my Internet World articles - http://www.memra.com
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At 05:59 PM 10/10/98 -0700, Michael Dillon wrote:
Those enclosed compartments have headlights mounted on them that look like eyes. Add a nice evil grin to the front somewhere and you complete the caricature of machinery run amok.
... and if you have it drawn by a police sketch artist it will have a mischievous appearance. Brian -- Brian Holt Network Engineer GTE Internetworking (800)801-3920
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