I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive. B/R Don
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths. They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs. Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
I've been using them out of Dallas for about 2.5 years now with very good success. Their NOC has been top notch in responding to our issues, though I've seen repeated peering issues for them with a single provider, but who's to say that's their fault and not the other parties? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths.
They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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Same here 2 BGP flaps in past week. Dmitry Sherman dmitry@interhost.net Interhost Networks Ltd Web: http://www.interhost.co.il fb: https://www.facebook.com/InterhostIL Office: (+972)-(0)74-7029881 Fax: (+972)-(0)53-7976157 -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Greg Sowell Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:37 AM To: Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Telia network quality I've been using them out of Dallas for about 2.5 years now with very good success. Their NOC has been top notch in responding to our issues, though I've seen repeated peering issues for them with a single provider, but who's to say that's their fault and not the other parties? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths.
They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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At the risk of sounding exceptionally snarky here, I don't think it really makes sense to judge a carrier's performance based on the short term status of a single BGP session. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Dmitry Sherman <dmitry@interhost.net> wrote:
Same here 2 BGP flaps in past week.
Dmitry Sherman dmitry@interhost.net Interhost Networks Ltd Web: http://www.interhost.co.il fb: https://www.facebook.com/InterhostIL Office: (+972)-(0)74-7029881 Fax: (+972)-(0)53-7976157
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Greg Sowell Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:37 AM To: Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Telia network quality
I've been using them out of Dallas for about 2.5 years now with very good success. Their NOC has been top notch in responding to our issues, though I've seen repeated peering issues for them with a single provider, but who's to say that's their fault and not the other parties?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths.
They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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You're absolutely right. Usually the quality is perfect and stable. Telia is very respectful T1 provider. Best regards, Dmitry Sherman Interhost Networks www.interhost.co.il<http://www.interhost.co.il> Dmitry@interhost.net<mailto:Dmitry@interhost.net> Mob: 054-3181182 Sent from Steve's creature [X] On 7 Feb 2017, at 14:47, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc<mailto:beecher@beecher.cc>> wrote: At the risk of sounding exceptionally snarky here, I don't think it really makes sense to judge a carrier's performance based on the short term status of a single BGP session. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Dmitry Sherman <dmitry@interhost.net<mailto:dmitry@interhost.net>> wrote: Same here 2 BGP flaps in past week. Dmitry Sherman dmitry@interhost.net<mailto:dmitry@interhost.net> Interhost Networks Ltd Web: http://www.interhost.co.il fb: https://www.facebook.com/InterhostIL Office: (+972)-(0)74-7029881<tel:%28%2B972%29-%280%2974-7029881> Fax: (+972)-(0)53-7976157<tel:%28%2B972%29-%280%2953-7976157> -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org>] On Behalf Of Greg Sowell Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:37 AM To: Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net<mailto:erich@gotfusion.net>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Telia network quality I've been using them out of Dallas for about 2.5 years now with very good success. Their NOC has been top notch in responding to our issues, though I've seen repeated peering issues for them with a single provider, but who's to say that's their fault and not the other parties? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net<mailto:erich@gotfusion.net>> wrote:
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths.
They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net<mailto:erich@gotfusion.net> Office: 630-621-4804<tel:630-621-4804> Cell: 630-777-9291<tel:630-777-9291>
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com<mailto:don@adinine.com>> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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We have been using Telia for the last several years and they have top notch!! On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Dmitry Sherman <dmitry@interhost.net> wrote:
Same here 2 BGP flaps in past week.
Dmitry Sherman dmitry@interhost.net Interhost Networks Ltd Web: http://www.interhost.co.il fb: https://www.facebook.com/InterhostIL Office: (+972)-(0)74-7029881 Fax: (+972)-(0)53-7976157
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Greg Sowell Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:37 AM To: Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Telia network quality
I've been using them out of Dallas for about 2.5 years now with very good success. Their NOC has been top notch in responding to our issues, though I've seen repeated peering issues for them with a single provider, but who's to say that's their fault and not the other parties?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths.
They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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Was connected to them in NYC and in the past two years, we only had one issue and it was a faulty card in one of their core. New workplace is connected to them in Montreal. No issue so far! On Feb 7 2017, at 9:14 am, James Stankiewicz <stankiewicz@njedge.net> wrote:
We have been using Telia for the last several years and they have top notch!!
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Dmitry Sherman <dmitry@interhost.net> wrote:
Same here 2 BGP flaps in past week.
Dmitry Sherman dmitry@interhost.net Interhost Networks Ltd Web: <http://www.interhost.co.il> fb: https://www.facebook.com/InterhostIL Office: (+972)-(0)74-7029881 Fax: (+972)-(0)53-7976157
\-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Greg Sowell Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:37 AM To: Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Telia network quality
I've been using them out of Dallas for about 2.5 years now with very good success. Their NOC has been top notch in responding to our issues, though I've seen repeated peering issues for them with a single provider, but who's to say that's their fault and not the other parties?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths.
They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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We are connected to Telia in Europe for about 2 years now. We've never had any issues with them and the response times of the NOC, when we do have questions, have always been great. Latencies to several destinations are good and we don't have any bandwidth issues. ________________________________________ Von: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> im Auftrag von Eric Dugas <edugas@unknowndevice.ca> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Februar 2017 15:19 An: NANOG Betreff: Re: Telia network quality Was connected to them in NYC and in the past two years, we only had one issue and it was a faulty card in one of their core. New workplace is connected to them in Montreal. No issue so far! On Feb 7 2017, at 9:14 am, James Stankiewicz <stankiewicz@njedge.net> wrote:
We have been using Telia for the last several years and they have top notch!!
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Dmitry Sherman <dmitry@interhost.net> wrote:
Same here 2 BGP flaps in past week.
Dmitry Sherman dmitry@interhost.net Interhost Networks Ltd Web: <http://www.interhost.co.il> fb: https://www.facebook.com/InterhostIL Office: (+972)-(0)74-7029881 Fax: (+972)-(0)53-7976157
\-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Greg Sowell Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:37 AM To: Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Telia network quality
I've been using them out of Dallas for about 2.5 years now with very good success. Their NOC has been top notch in responding to our issues, though I've seen repeated peering issues for them with a single provider, but who's to say that's their fault and not the other parties?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
I would say that information is not 100% accurate. We use Telia for waves nationwide and also have several DIA ingest(transit) points from them. If anything, the IRU carriers they are using may have a problem sometimes due to fiber cuts, but that is why you build redundant paths.
They are very ontop of the ball when one of the waves goes down. We actually don't utilize a ton of their transit due to the nature of our network design, because we are connected to all of the major IXs.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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Looking for a customer list for this building. Best, Roderick.
We use them globally and often work with their teams. Pros – customer service is excellent, very fast response times and good engineers. They are don’t beat around the bush if the issue is their fault, they will come right out and tell you so you can stop scrambling. They are also pretty good at resolving the issues on their network in a timely manner. Cons – Out of all our carriers, they have the most problems. Most of the time it comes down to minor issues in their NA and EU backbone, sometimes congestion in the backbone. We have very network sensitive traffic so we pick up on most internet issues. They’ve also had the most mis-configuration issues of all our carriers. The configuration issues were quite a while ago. We got on them pretty hard about this and since then no more configuration issues. All in all, their service is good and have no problem recommending them. Good luck -- Donovan Van Dyk The information contained in this electronic mail transmission and its attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or an individual responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you are strictly prohibited from copying, disseminating or distributing this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all electronic, paper or other versions. On 2/2/17, 11:12 AM, "Don" <don@adinine.com> wrote: I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive. B/R Don
Cloudflare issues with Telia are a thing of the past. They remain one of the top Tier1 provider in term of reach and quality. On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Don <don@adinine.com> wrote:
I heard Telia's quality had been on the decline lately as they were signing on lots of high-capacity new customers, and Cloudflare had some complaint about them a few months prior too. Does anybody have any insight into whether this is still the case? I was trying to evaluate whether Telia would be a good carrier to switch over to as a primary provider, as their pricing does look pretty attractive.
B/R Don
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