I sent this to UU and haven't had a return yet - looks like there is some echo-reply filterring going on... someone getting hammered? [ras@poppa ras]$ ping f1.lon PING f1.lon (194.205.83.195): 56 data bytes --- f1.lon ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss [ras@poppa ras]$ ping -dRv f1.lon PING f1.lon (194.205.83.195): 56 data bytes 76 bytes from 189.ATM8-0-0.GW2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (146.188.178.133): Packet FilteredVr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 f 00 7c00 0e05 0 0000 39 01 0fd1 209.61.9.10 194.205.83.195 072720d13d090ac70041868927877292bcb0e192bcb21a92bcb2869d8205e5000000000000000000 76 bytes from 188.ATM9-0-0.GW2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (146.188.178.141): Packet FilteredVr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst Data 4 f 00 7c00 1305 0 0000 39 01 0abd 209.61.9.10 194.205.83.195 072720d13d090ac70041868927877292bcb0e592bcb22292bcb28e9d8205e5000000000000000000 -- I am nothing if not net-Q! - ras@poppa.thick.net