Switch with 24x SFP PVLAN QinQ Layer 2
Hi All, I'm scouring the Internet for potential devices to use in a FTTB/FTTP scenario. Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high. Has anyone come across anything I've not found yet? Thanks, adam.
Adam, Have you looked at the Calix E7 platform or the Adtran TA5000? Both are Layer 2 only. Nick Colton Allo Communications On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Adam Armstrong <lists@memetic.org> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm scouring the Internet for potential devices to use in a FTTB/FTTP scenario.
Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high.
Has anyone come across anything I've not found yet?
Thanks, adam.
Rad ETX 1002 and ETX 201A as CPE -----Original Message----- From: Nick Colton [mailto:ncolton@allophone.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:17 AM To: Adam Armstrong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Switch with 24x SFP PVLAN QinQ Layer 2 Adam, Have you looked at the Calix E7 platform or the Adtran TA5000? Both are Layer 2 only. Nick Colton Allo Communications On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Adam Armstrong <lists@memetic.org> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm scouring the Internet for potential devices to use in a FTTB/FTTP scenario.
Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high.
Has anyone come across anything I've not found yet?
Thanks, adam.
We bought Extreme Networks Summit x350 for FTTx purposes. -- Eduardo Schoedler
-----Mensagem original----- De: Adam Armstrong [mailto:lists@memetic.org] Enviada em: quarta-feira, 2 de março de 2011 07:20 Para: nanog@nanog.org Assunto: Switch with 24x SFP PVLAN QinQ Layer 2
Hi All,
I'm scouring the Internet for potential devices to use in a FTTB/FTTP scenario.
Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high.
Has anyone come across anything I've not found yet?
Thanks, adam.
Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high.
Cisco ME6524 has a model with 32 SFP ports (24 with 3:1 oversubscription, 8 non-oversubscribed) and "IP Base" IOS which has very limited L3 features (RIP and EIGRP stub only), focused on Layer 2 deployments. Rubens
On 02/03/2011 18:26, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high. Cisco ME6524 has a model with 32 SFP ports (24 with 3:1 oversubscription, 8 non-oversubscribed) and "IP Base" IOS which has very limited L3 features (RIP and EIGRP stub only), focused on Layer 2 deployments.
Hardware is still ridiculously expensive for purposes. adam.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@gmail.com> wrote:
Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high.
Cisco ME6524 has a model with 32 SFP ports (24 with 3:1 oversubscription, 8 non-oversubscribed) and "IP Base" IOS which has very limited L3 features (RIP and EIGRP stub only), focused on Layer 2 deployments.
Rubens
The ME3600X might be more a more appropriate Cisco solution than the ME6524. The ME3600X is one of the current metro MDU access CPE device of choice.
2x10GE and 24xGE SFP or Copper versions with Metro Feature set. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10956/index.html *In the spirit of full disclosure I am biased towards this vendor
On 02/03/2011 19:19, James Brown wrote:
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@gmail.com <mailto:rubensk@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. > Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost > per port too high.
Cisco ME6524 has a model with 32 SFP ports (24 with 3:1 oversubscription, 8 non-oversubscribed) and "IP Base" IOS which has very limited L3 features (RIP and EIGRP stub only), focused on Layer 2 deployments.
Rubens
The ME3600X might be more a more appropriate Cisco solution than the ME6524. The ME3600X is one of the current metro MDU access CPE device of choice.
2x10GE and 24xGE SFP or Copper versions with Metro Feature set.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10956/index.html
*In the spirit of full disclosure I am biased towards this vendor
Still much too expensive :) adam.
> Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. > Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost > per port too high.
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The ME3600X might be more a more appropriate Cisco solution than the ME6524. The ME3600X is one of the current metro MDU access CPE device of choice.
2x10GE and 24xGE SFP or Copper versions with Metro Feature set.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10956/index.html
*In the spirit of full disclosure I am biased towards this vendor
Still much too expensive :)
If the ME3600X is much too expensive, it's possible your expectations for pricing aren't realistic. Selective QinQ is pretty new, and tends to be found only in provider type equipment. If you can live without that, "normal" (non selective) QinQ is offered on most switches today. In that case several different Extreme switches might be of interest. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no
If the ME3600X is much too expensive, it's possible your expectations for pricing aren't realistic.
Selective QinQ is pretty new, and tends to be found only in provider type equipment. If you can live without that, "normal" (non selective) QinQ is offered on most switches today. In that case several different Extreme switches might be of interest.
Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no
Finding switches that will do private vlans, selective QinQ and the requirement for 24SFP ports is a combination that adds up to a switch in the $5,000 to $7,000 range even without layer 3 from most of the vendors whose products I use. Best one I have been able to come up with price-wise that seems to meet your requirements is Huawei Quidway S5300 (S5328C-EI-24S) which seems to be in the $3000 neighborhood but I have never used their gear.
I would take a look at a Ciena 3940 and other models. They look to be cost effective for layer 2 deployments. -----Original Message----- From: Adam Armstrong [mailto:lists@memetic.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:20 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Switch with 24x SFP PVLAN QinQ Layer 2 Hi All, I'm scouring the Internet for potential devices to use in a FTTB/FTTP scenario. Requirements are basically just 24/48 SFP ports, PVLAN and selective QinQ. Most devices that fit the requirements are Layer 3, which pushes the cost per port too high. Has anyone come across anything I've not found yet? Thanks, adam.
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