I've gotten lot's of responses on my original question, but I'm finding perhaps I didn't ask the correct one. What I really need to know is what is the real world effect of latency on throughput? I know that frame relay has a higher latency than a point to point line, and that a point to point is generally regarded as faster. Would someone mind explaining the specifics of that relationship a little bit? Again, off list please, unless someone thinks it's an appropriate topic for this list.. Thanks again, Tim --------------------------------------------------- Tim Wolfe, Network Administrator ClipperNet Internet Access Services tim@clipper.net 541.431.3360 voice 541.431.1176 fax ...Across the Desktop and around the World... ---------------------------------------------------