Interesting to notice someone (perhaps from this list?) has removed Cogent from the T1 list. They did however leave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogent alone. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:07 AM To: Richard A Steenbergen; Robert Sherrard Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Tier 2 - Lease? At 01:58 AM 5/3/2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:38:22PM -0700, Robert Sherrard wrote:
What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
Is it possible to determine who a tier 2 (i.e. Cogent) leases fiber
from?
It has absolutely nothing to do with fiber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_carrier
As of this exact moment that I'm posting, that article is actually reasonably accurate. Of course I'm sure in 5 minutes 100 people will be
updating it to include their favorite not-really-a-tier-1 carrier. :)
Someone added Cogent as a Tier 1, and there are others missing so I'd ignore the "who" is a tier 1 portion. -M< -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 Member of Technical Staff Network Operations hannigan@renesys.com
At 11:31 AM 5/3/2006, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
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On Wed, 03 May 2006 07:47:20 PDT, "Berkman, Scott" said:
Interesting to notice someone (perhaps from this list?) has removed Cogent from the T1 list.
Wishful thinking from somebody carrying a grudge at Level3?
(ducks) :)
I removed them for accuracy reasons. http://www.fugawi.net/~hannigan/pirates.jpg And the Wiki discussion, which is probably better at this URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cogent_Communications -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 Member of Technical Staff Network Operations hannigan@renesys.com
At 01:58 AM 5/3/2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_carrier
As of this exact moment that I'm posting, that article is actually reasonably accurate. Of course I'm sure in 5 minutes 100 people will be
Berkman, Scott wrote:
Interesting to notice someone (perhaps from this list?) has removed Cogent from the T1 list. They did however leave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogent alone.
Gentlefolk, don't forget that *you* can fix the entries. For several years, I and most anybody I know locally here would just fix things whenever we noticed a silly mistake, without logging on. Last year, at the urging of some folks in various fields, I finally added a user name. However, because of their arcane rules about not writing articles that are/were based on original work, I cannot actually help much in my areas of most significant expertise. I urge you to add a user name, and "watch" some articles. The amount of misinformation in some fields, including networking, is astounding. Now, it's gotten rather large. When Wikipedia goes down, users call support. They have a technical list, but it's hard to help much, as the supporting documentation has not kept up with installation and operations. A problem I'm sure we all recognize! They are basically holding things together and bailing with both hands. -- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
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