Greetings everyone - NANOG and ARIN are very happy to announce our 2nd back-to-back meetings, NANOG29 and ARIN XII: ----------------------------------- The 2003 Joint NANOG/ARIN Meetings ----------------------------------- October 19 - 24, 2003 Chicago, Illinois ----------------------------------- ARIN is the American Registry for Internet Numbers, www.arin.net. If you've never attended an ARIN meeting, take this opportunity to influence address assignment policy for N. America, a portion of the Caribbean, and sub-equatorial Africa. The striking thing about ARIN meetings is who's in front of the room -- for the most part it's users on the Advisory Council or Board of Trustees, not the ARIN staff. The community has the main voice in ARIN decision-making -- your input plays a huge role in policies for v4 and v6 address requests, allocations, assignments, abuse, and privacy. NANOG will meet Sunday - Tuesday, Oct. 19-21, and ARIN Wednesday - Friday, Oct. 22-24. Looking forward to seeing you then!
I am very glad to see another joint meeting. I think this was an excellent idea and worked out very well for both organizations the first time. I am sad to see it in Chicago. I realize ARIN/NANOG had to organize this some time ago, probably before Mayor Daley bulldozed Meigs field in the middle of the night without warning to the FAA (or anyone else). FWIW, AOPA has organized a boycott of Chicago until Meigs field is restored to operational status. This might be considered off-topic, but I know several ISPs that depend on General Aviation to get personnel and parts to sites in emergencies. Meigs field was the closest GA airport to downtown Chicago. In fact, it is basically _IN_ downtown Chicago, within sight of Sears Tower (even some of the lower floors). As such, it is not unlikely that mayor Daley's act of terrorism (done in the name of security, by the way) has operational impact. Hopefully by October, Meigs will be operational and this will be moot. However, if it is not, it will be very difficult for me to bring myself to attend. (If it were anything less than ARIN/NANOG, I simply would not attend). If anyone wants more information about the destruction of Meigs field, please see http://www.aopa.org. Please send any comments/questions to me off-list. I suspect the rest of the group doesn't want to hear the flames/etc. Owen (donning nomex now)
As such, it is not unlikely that mayor Daley's act of terrorism (done in
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name of security, by the way) has operational impact. Hopefully by October, Meigs will be operational and this will be moot. However, if it is not, it will be very difficult for me to bring myself to attend. (If it were anything less than ARIN/NANOG, I simply would not attend).
If anyone wants more information about the destruction of Meigs field, please see http://www.aopa.org. Please send any comments/questions to me off-list. I suspect the rest of the group doesn't want to hear the flames/etc.
Owen (donning nomex now)
Actually I'm glad to see it brought up. As a fellow pilot I am equally appalled by the mayors actions. I agree completely with the boycott and would like to see this brought to the attention of the city that ARIN/NANOG may have trouble attracting members to Chicago due to the terrorist acts of their mayor. Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 720-3635
At 03:43 PM 4/10/2003 -0400, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
As such, it is not unlikely that mayor Daley's act of terrorism (done in the name of security, by the way) has operational impact. Hopefully by October, Meigs will be operational and this will be moot. However, if it is not, it will be very difficult for me to bring myself to attend. (If it were anything less than ARIN/NANOG, I simply would not attend).
If anyone wants more information about the destruction of Meigs field, please see http://www.aopa.org. Please send any comments/questions to me off-list. I suspect the rest of the group doesn't want to hear the flames/etc.
Owen (donning nomex now)
Actually I'm glad to see it brought up. As a fellow pilot I am equally appalled by the mayors actions. I agree completely with the boycott and would like to see this brought to the attention of the city that ARIN/NANOG may have trouble attracting members to Chicago due to the terrorist acts of their mayor.
A little quick on the gun with the "Terrorist" label? Is everyone you disagree with in public office a "Terrorist"? So don't fly to a Chicago airport, stay in a Chicago hotel ( there are plenty in the suburbs not too far outside the city ). There's quite a few GA airports around the area. Palwaukee airport in the NW subs is decently sized. Lake in the Hills airport is about 10 minutes from where I live, so maybe you could hitch a ride... ;) I for one am glad to see Nanog in Chicago, as in the age of dimminishing travel budgets I will actually be able to attend rather than try to watch an intermittant video stream. -Chris -- \\\|||/// \ StarNet Inc. \ Chris Parker \ ~ ~ / \ WX *is* Wireless! \ Director, Engineering | @ @ | \ http://www.starnetwx.net \ (847) 963-0116 oOo---(_)---oOo--\------------------------------------------------------ \ Wholesale Internet Services - http://www.megapop.net
A little quick on the gun with the "Terrorist" label? Is everyone you disagree with in public office a "Terrorist"?
Nope - I absolutely mean terrorist. When you show up at 1:00am with Bulldozers and destroy public property without telling anyone what you are about to do what would you call it? What do you think you would get called if you did it? Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 720-3635
A vandal? Where is the terror or incitement thereof? Rgds, -drc On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 01:03 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
A little quick on the gun with the "Terrorist" label? Is everyone you disagree with in public office a "Terrorist"?
Nope - I absolutely mean terrorist. When you show up at 1:00am with Bulldozers and destroy public property without telling anyone what you are about to do what would you call it? What do you think you would get called if you did it?
Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 720-3635
MR> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:03:22 -0400 MR> From: Mark Radabaugh MR> Nope - I absolutely mean terrorist. When you show up at MR> 1:00am with Bulldozers and destroy public property without MR> telling anyone what you are about to do what would you call MR> it? What do you think you would get called if you did it? s/bulldozer/backhoe/ and I think we have the plot for a B-grade geek horror movie. "Night of the Backhoes: The NANOG That Went Dreadfully Wrong" Eddy -- Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) From: A Trap <blacklist@brics.com> To: blacklist@brics.com Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. Do NOT send mail to <blacklist@brics.com>, or you are likely to be blocked.
And, with his "I closed Meigs for national security reasons" excuse, Mayor Daley wins the bad actor award. (Even Tom Ridge didin't buy that excuse.) For what it's worth, I recommend a venue change. -Rob On 10 Apr 2003 at 21:23, E.B. Dreger wrote:
s/bulldozer/backhoe/ and I think we have the plot for a B-grade geek horror movie.
"Night of the Backhoes: The NANOG That Went Dreadfully Wrong"
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This is a joke, right? A disagreement over civil aviation and local politics is being labeled as "terrorism" and for this (completely off-topic) reason, we are to somehow protest or boycott? I sincerely doubt that this situation will have any kind of significant impact on NANOG or ARIN attendance. - Dan On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
As such, it is not unlikely that mayor Daley's act of terrorism (done in the name of security, by the way) has operational impact. Hopefully by October, Meigs will be operational and this will be moot. However, if it is not, it will be very difficult for me to bring myself to attend. (If it were anything less than ARIN/NANOG, I simply would not attend).
If anyone wants more information about the destruction of Meigs field, please see http://www.aopa.org. Please send any comments/questions to me off-list. I suspect the rest of the group doesn't want to hear the flames/etc.
Owen (donning nomex now)
Actually I'm glad to see it brought up. As a fellow pilot I am equally appalled by the mayors actions. I agree completely with the boycott and would like to see this brought to the attention of the city that ARIN/NANOG may have trouble attracting members to Chicago due to the terrorist acts of their mayor.
Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 720-3635
This subject is probably was off topic here. It's just that Meigs is a passion for all pilots, considered one of the most beautiful airport destinations in the US. for anyone that has flight simulator it's the most often chosen destination and the one always highlighted by the vendor. It has been a target for closure for many many years because they want to turn the land into some kind of crazy project or other... sort of a public works project that probably wont add much value. Meanwhile if you are from the midwest and want to get to nanog without delays, quickly and easily, Meigs is literally right downtown, right in the lake. Just respect that this is another one of those causes us nanog types are drawn too, almost hopeless causes under attack by bureaucrats with irrational agendas. At this point Im not sure there is much we can do. In the FUTURE perhaps the list should be allowed to give comments on proposed locations and hosts prior to official selection... /rant Dave At 11:51 -0500 4/11/03, Daniel Golding wrote:
This is a joke, right? A disagreement over civil aviation and local politics is being labeled as "terrorism" and for this (completely off-topic) reason, we are to somehow protest or boycott? I sincerely doubt that this situation will have any kind of significant impact on NANOG or ARIN attendance.
- Dan
On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
As such, it is not unlikely that mayor Daley's act of terrorism (done in the name of security, by the way) has operational impact. Hopefully by October, Meigs will be operational and this will be moot. However, if it is not, it will be very difficult for me to bring myself to attend. (If it were anything less than ARIN/NANOG, I simply would not attend).
If anyone wants more information about the destruction of Meigs field, please see http://www.aopa.org. Please send any comments/questions to me off-list. I suspect the rest of the group doesn't want to hear the flames/etc.
Owen (donning nomex now)
Actually I'm glad to see it brought up. As a fellow pilot I am equally appalled by the mayors actions. I agree completely with the boycott and would like to see this brought to the attention of the city that ARIN/NANOG may have trouble attracting members to Chicago due to the terrorist acts of their mayor.
Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 720-3635
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