Webmail / IMAPS software for end-user clients in 2016
If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you use? Roundcube? https://roundcube.net/ Rainloop? http://www.rainloop.net/ Something else? Requirements: Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2 Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" size screens with Chrome and Safari
hi ya On 06/08/16 at 06:06pm, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, > and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you use? > > Roundcube? > https://roundcube.net/ - good > Rainloop? > http://www.rainloop.net/ - never used - w/o db support, how you maintain a (real) list of x,000 users and pwd > Something else? http://squirrlemail.org - good http://openwebmail.org/ - least effort to get webmail running ( esp if time is limited ) http://horde.org - possibly confusing install process --------- imaps from doveocot.org ( note differences between dovecot-1.x vs dovecot-2.x ) > Requirements: > Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed > > Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2 > > Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx > > Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" > size screens with Chrome and Safari - you probably want support for your favorite sql app - you probably want support for your favorite anti-virus app - you probably want support for your favorite anti-spam app http://networknightmare.net/WebMail/ magic pixie dust alvin # DDoS-Mitigator.net #
openwebmail hasn't been updated since 2006... squirrelmail is ancient and barely maintained. Antivirus and antispam are handled by the SMTP system which operates on the backend of the webmail, by the time incoming mail gets to dovecot imap storage for the user accounts it has already been processed. Antivirus/antispam handled similarly on other servers for outgoing SMTP traffic. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 6:37 PM, alvin nanog <nanogml@mail.ddos-mitigator.net > wrote: > > hi ya > > On 06/08/16 at 06:06pm, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, > > and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you > use? > > > > Roundcube? > > https://roundcube.net/ > - good > > > Rainloop? > > http://www.rainloop.net/ > - never used > - w/o db support, how you maintain a (real) list of x,000 users and pwd > > > Something else? > > http://squirrlemail.org > - good > > http://openwebmail.org/ > - least effort to get webmail running ( esp if time is limited ) > > http://horde.org > - possibly confusing install process > > --------- > imaps from doveocot.org > ( note differences between dovecot-1.x vs dovecot-2.x ) > > > Requirements: > > Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed > > > > Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2 > > > > Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx > > > > Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" > > size screens with Chrome and Safari > > - you probably want support for your favorite sql app > - you probably want support for your favorite anti-virus app > - you probably want support for your favorite anti-spam app > > http://networknightmare.net/WebMail/ > > magic pixie dust > alvin > # DDoS-Mitigator.net > # >
hi yta On 06/08/16 at 06:43pm, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
openwebmail hasn't been updated since 2006...
yup.. a minor/major issue
squirrelmail is ancient and barely maintained.
last update ( svn ) was Jun 09, 2016 ( today ) http://squirrelmail.org/download.php if you like the "latest/greatest" sw ... debian is not always the best choice, as their *.deb packages are sometimes too old for the binaries it's packaging compared to the author's stable releases ( latest stable packages want in the distro: ( kernel, apache, sendmail, postfix, sql, php, perl, dovecot, etc ----- barely maintained etc is not necessarily bad ... - sometimes, you want stable software that doesn't change every day or every week - presumably, "more stable" sw will not have as many bugs that requires releasing yet another version - sometimes, time-tested (stable) software, used by thousands of users with thousands of different OS/mta/browsers is a a good thing .. - optionally, to use the latest dev released from yesterday/last week is equally good, esp for bug fixes and security patches
Antivirus and antispam are handled by the SMTP system which operates on the backend of the webmail, by the time incoming mail gets to dovecot imap storage for the user accounts it has already been processed.
okay ... virus and spam can be stopped at many different places or even outsourced .. it's not just the MTA's job to do filter it
Antivirus/antispam handled similarly on other servers for outgoing SMTP traffic.
good if you're stopping outgoing virus/spam... :-) don't forget the incoming virii/wormns too have fun alvin
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:37 PM, alvin nanog <nanogml@mail.ddos-mitigator.net> wrote: >> Rainloop? >> http://www.rainloop.net/ > - never used > - w/o db support, how you maintain a (real) list of x,000 users and pwd "Direct access to mail server is used (mails are not stored locally on web server)." -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
Yes... The mail storage running behind the https based webmail server would be IMAPS to dovecot, which has more than ample functionality for many different ways of storing mail and authenticating users. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 8:55 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:37 PM, alvin nanog > <nanogml@mail.ddos-mitigator.net> wrote: > >> Rainloop? > >> http://www.rainloop.net/ > > - never used > > - w/o db support, how you maintain a (real) list of x,000 users and pwd > > "Direct access to mail server is used (mails are not stored locally on > web server)." > > > > > > -- > William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us > Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> >
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 8:55 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:37 PM, alvin nanog > > <nanogml@mail.ddos-mitigator.net> wrote: > > >> Rainloop? > > >> http://www.rainloop.net/ > > > - never used > > > - w/o db support, how you maintain a (real) list of x,000 users and pwd > > > > "Direct access to mail server is used (mails are not stored locally on > > web server)." I never see LDAP mentioned much. Dovecot has excellent support for it and many other ways to authenticate a "user". Squirelmail can too. Plus you can use all the nss/pam options instead of native support. Sogo is a nice option https://sogo.nu/ We're loving the dovecot replication too. A long time user. -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Winner of the Best Business ITSP (Medium Enterprise) 2016! http://www.surevoip.co.uk/2016-best-provider
Zimbra Jason Bertoch -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:06 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Webmail / IMAPS software for end-user clients in 2016 If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you use? Roundcube? https://roundcube.net/ Rainloop? http://www.rainloop.net/ Something else? Requirements: Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2 Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" size screens with Chrome and Safari
June 8 2016 6:08 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you use?
Roundcube? https://roundcube.net
Rainloop? http://www.rainloop.net
Something else?
Requirements: Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed
Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2
Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx
Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" size screens with Chrome and Safari
I work for an ISP, and recently we were faced with the same dilemma. We knew that our RoundCube was rather old and needed a facelift. We started looking at new clients what I came across RainLoop. IMO RoundCube still doesn't have a decent working mobile theme. I went ahead and installed RainLoop on my personal server. Configuration was a breeze. The interface is very nice. And the mobile layout is very slick. I did come across a problem with displaying emails and when I emailed their support email, they were very quick to respond. And within 24 hors they were able to write a fix for my specific issue and build a new release for me to download and test. I think that says something for their support team. Even if my office doesn't adopt RainLoop, I will continue using it on my personal server for the forsee able future. -- Jim Lucas C - 5414085189 H - 5413234219 http://cmsws.com
+1 for Zimbra On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Jim Lucas <lists@cmsws.com> wrote:
June 8 2016 6:08 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you use?
Roundcube? https://roundcube.net
Rainloop? http://www.rainloop.net
Something else?
Requirements: Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed
Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2
Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx
Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" size screens with Chrome and Safari
I work for an ISP, and recently we were faced with the same dilemma. We knew that our RoundCube was rather old and needed a facelift. We started looking at new clients what I came across RainLoop.
IMO RoundCube still doesn't have a decent working mobile theme.
I went ahead and installed RainLoop on my personal server. Configuration was a breeze. The interface is very nice. And the mobile layout is very slick.
I did come across a problem with displaying emails and when I emailed their support email, they were very quick to respond. And within 24 hors they were able to write a fix for my specific issue and build a new release for me to download and test.
I think that says something for their support team.
Even if my office doesn't adopt RainLoop, I will continue using it on my personal server for the forsee able future.
-- Jim Lucas C - 5414085189 H - 5413234219 http://cmsws.com
-- GregSowell.com TheBrothersWISP.com
Zimbra is a full featured groupware server. I don't think you can just use the webmail part with existing IMAP server. So it doesn't fulfill requirements stated by initial poster.
Le 13 juin 2016 à 21:24, Greg Sowell <greg@gregsowell.com> a écrit :
+1 for Zimbra
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Jim Lucas <lists@cmsws.com> wrote:
June 8 2016 6:08 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you use?
Roundcube? https://roundcube.net
Rainloop? http://www.rainloop.net
Something else?
Requirements: Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed
Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2
Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx
Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" size screens with Chrome and Safari
I work for an ISP, and recently we were faced with the same dilemma. We knew that our RoundCube was rather old and needed a facelift. We started looking at new clients what I came across RainLoop.
IMO RoundCube still doesn't have a decent working mobile theme.
I went ahead and installed RainLoop on my personal server. Configuration was a breeze. The interface is very nice. And the mobile layout is very slick.
I did come across a problem with displaying emails and when I emailed their support email, they were very quick to respond. And within 24 hors they were able to write a fix for my specific issue and build a new release for me to download and test.
I think that says something for their support team.
Even if my office doesn't adopt RainLoop, I will continue using it on my personal server for the forsee able future.
-- Jim Lucas C - 5414085189 H - 5413234219 http://cmsws.com
--
GregSowell.com TheBrothersWISP.com
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- without calendar -> WebMail-lite PHP - with personal calendar -> WebMail PHP - with calendar and full sharing exchange style -> Aurora On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Guillaume Tournat <guillaume@ironie.org> wrote:
Zimbra is a full featured groupware server. I don't think you can just use the webmail part with existing IMAP server.
So it doesn't fulfill requirements stated by initial poster.
Le 13 juin 2016 à 21:24, Greg Sowell <greg@gregsowell.com> a écrit :
+1 for Zimbra
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Jim Lucas <lists@cmsws.com> wrote:
June 8 2016 6:08 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
If you had to put up a public facing webmail interface for people to use, and maintain it for the foreseeable future (5-6 years), what would you use?
Roundcube? https://roundcube.net
Rainloop? http://www.rainloop.net
Something else?
Requirements: Needs to be open souce and GPL, BSD or Apache licensed
Email storage will be accessed via IMAP/TLS1.2
Runs on a Debian based platform with apache2 or nginx
Desktop browser CSS and mobile device CSS/HTML functionality on 4" to 7" size screens with Chrome and Safari
I work for an ISP, and recently we were faced with the same dilemma. We knew that our RoundCube was rather old and needed a facelift. We started looking at new clients what I came across RainLoop.
IMO RoundCube still doesn't have a decent working mobile theme.
I went ahead and installed RainLoop on my personal server. Configuration was a breeze. The interface is very nice. And the mobile layout is very slick.
I did come across a problem with displaying emails and when I emailed their support email, they were very quick to respond. And within 24 hors they were able to write a fix for my specific issue and build a new release for me to download and test.
I think that says something for their support team.
Even if my office doesn't adopt RainLoop, I will continue using it on my personal server for the forsee able future.
-- Jim Lucas C - 5414085189 H - 5413234219 http://cmsws.com
--
GregSowell.com TheBrothersWISP.com
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