It appears that MFS finally went and did it, and the mae-east we all came to know and love has finally been turned off. Please bow your heads for a moment of silence.
I've had a private reply to say that someone's MAE-E FDDI connection is still up. I've also heard of connections going down earlier this week. Could Worldcom be doing a phased shutdown? (Presumably this would be obvious to anyone who still has a live FDDI connection) Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:27:15PM +0100, Simon Lockhart wrote:
I've had a private reply to say that someone's MAE-E FDDI connection is still up.
I've also heard of connections going down earlier this week.
Could Worldcom be doing a phased shutdown? (Presumably this would be obvious to anyone who still has a live FDDI connection)
I've received a number of replies, some down, some up. It does appear that only some connections are down, for yet unknown reasons. If someone still active had a lot of free time they could ping all of the addresses, and see if it looks like one or more of the gigaswitches was turned off. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org
> I've received a number of replies, some down, some up. It does > appear that only some connections are down, for yet unknown reasons. It has always been WorldCom's marketing position that their switches are at the topological "center" of MAE-East. However they have never in fact had a monopoly on switch-ports at MAE-East, and only their after-the-fact marketing FUD has managed to convince some people that their switch ports are somehow more legitimate than everyone else's. A minority of MAE-East participants' _routers_ were actually connected to Worldcom switch ports, but we now have the opportunity to find out how many participants' _switches_ were connected to Worldcom switches.
From any point of view, those participants who appear down are those who are on the other side of a (now defunct) Worldcom switch, while those who appear up are on the same side of a Worldcom switch.
The somewhat harder trick is in mapping which of the switches need to be interconnected to which of the others to patch around the WorldCom damage without creating a loop. -Bill
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:27:15PM +0100, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Could Worldcom be doing a phased shutdown? (Presumably this would be obvious to anyone who still has a live FDDI connection)
Seems like it. Compare: <http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.mae.net/FDDI/east.map.htm> ...to: <http://www.mae.net/FDDI/east.map.htm> and note the absence of giga3 and 7. Of course, this doesn't provide an accurate list of people connected to the MAE FDDI using non-Worldcom-maintained switches. And there's always the possibility that some of this decrease can be attributed to service providers, not Worldcom, pulling the plug on their MAE FDDI connections. That said, I do find this mildly interesting. -adam
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Adam Rothschild wrote:
<http://www.mae.net/FDDI/east.map.htm>
and note the absence of giga3 and 7.
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That said, I do find this mildly interesting.
The (mildly) amusing part is that I can not reach www.mae.net - maybe they forgot to move it off giga3/7... :) -- Dominic J. Eidson "Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-menu!" - Gimli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.the-infinite.org/ http://www.the-infinite.org/~dominic/
The (mildly) amusing part is that I can not reach www.mae.net - maybe they forgot to move it off giga3/7... :)
No, it still alive, I can reach it from @home. It lives in San Jose, connected to MAE West (FDDI and ATM). Steve (who set it up, oh so many years ago...)
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Adam Rothschild
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Bill Woodcock
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Dominic J. Eidson
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Leo Bicknell
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Simon Lockhart
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Steve Feldman