Hey all, Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response. I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since. -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Email all of their peering db contacts. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 10:22 PM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet. It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM Subject: Amazon Peering Hey all, Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response. I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since. -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year. They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb. Thanks On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7.. “Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote: I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM Subject: Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months. On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze. They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net <mailto:nanog@ics-il.net> wrote: I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM Subject: Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com <mailto:peering@amazon.com> and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it! On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze.
They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> To: "Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM Subject: Re: Amazon Peering Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it! On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld < jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca > wrote: We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze. They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing. <blockquote> On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher < beecher@beecher.cc > wrote: I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months. On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org > wrote: <blockquote> This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7.. “Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.” On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl < darin.steffl@mnwifi.com > wrote: <blockquote> It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year. They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb. Thanks On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net wrote: <blockquote> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet. It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Darin Steffl" < darin.steffl@mnwifi.com > To: "North American Network Operators' Group" < nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM Subject: Amazon Peering Hey all, Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response. I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since. -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
We've been waiting since December 2017 with multiple followup. Their most recent response said that February would probably be when they turn us up, 15 months after our first request. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 1:46 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> *To: *"Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> *Cc: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM *Subject: *Re: Amazon Peering
Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze.
They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
I recently had an experience of getting them to participate at local IX in Mumbai for which I am volunteering and experience was overall bad. Long delays in discussion to finally the cross-connects. During the process, we were asked for providing "our end IP" even when they told us that they no intention to peer at the route server. Somehow the process was confusing peering at IX Vs PNI. Not sure for other locations but in India, they have a process where they expect IX operator to coordinate in setting up bilateral BGP sessions which I personally feel isn't fair in the world of peeringdb, website and email contacts! On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:45 AM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
We've been waiting since December 2017 with multiple followup. Their most recent response said that February would probably be when they turn us up, 15 months after our first request.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 1:46 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> *To: *"Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> *Cc: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM *Subject: *Re: Amazon Peering
Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze.
They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
-- Anurag Bhatia anuragbhatia.com
Mike- Definitely moving forward now. Someone from Amazon was working with my peering group and things started coming up this weekend, so it seems like they're catching up pretty good now. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:45 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> *To: *"Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> *Cc: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM *Subject: *Re: Amazon Peering
Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze.
They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
I also saw sessions come up this weekend, no routes yet though. On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:56 PM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
Mike-
Definitely moving forward now. Someone from Amazon was working with my peering group and things started coming up this weekend, so it seems like they're catching up pretty good now.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:45 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> *To: *"Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> *Cc: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM *Subject: *Re: Amazon Peering
Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze.
They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Similar experiences here with Amazon. Initially had semi-regular responses from their peering team, they issued LOAs, I ordered the x-connects and then radio silence for months. At the point now where I'm disconnecting x-connects since it's a waste of money. On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:49 AM Brooks Swinnerton <bswinnerton@gmail.com> wrote:
I also saw sessions come up this weekend, no routes yet though.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:56 PM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
Mike-
Definitely moving forward now. Someone from Amazon was working with my peering group and things started coming up this weekend, so it seems like they're catching up pretty good now.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:45 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> *To: *"Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> *Cc: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM *Subject: *Re: Amazon Peering
Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze.
They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet.
It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM *Subject: *Amazon Peering
Hey all,
Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response.
I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since.
-- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Oh, you ordered cross connects for a PNI and they stopped responding mid-project? Isn't that nice! ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luca Salvatore via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:45:29 AM Subject: Re: Amazon Peering Similar experiences here with Amazon. Initially had semi-regular responses from their peering team, they issued LOAs, I ordered the x-connects and then radio silence for months. At the point now where I'm disconnecting x-connects since it's a waste of money. On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:49 AM Brooks Swinnerton < bswinnerton@gmail.com > wrote: I also saw sessions come up this weekend, no routes yet though. On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:56 PM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote: <blockquote> Mike- Definitely moving forward now. Someone from Amazon was working with my peering group and things started coming up this weekend, so it seems like they're catching up pretty good now. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:45 PM Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> To: "Jason Lixfeld" < jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca > Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" < nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM Subject: Re: Amazon Peering Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it! On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld < jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca > wrote: <blockquote> We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze. They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing. <blockquote> On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher < beecher@beecher.cc > wrote: I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months. On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org > wrote: <blockquote> This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7.. “Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.” On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl < darin.steffl@mnwifi.com > wrote: <blockquote> It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year. They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb. Thanks On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net wrote: <blockquote> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet. It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Darin Steffl" < darin.steffl@mnwifi.com > To: "North American Network Operators' Group" < nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM Subject: Amazon Peering Hey all, Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response. I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since. -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
Yup, super professional of them. On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:36 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Oh, you ordered cross connects for a PNI and they stopped responding mid-project? Isn't that nice!
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Luca Salvatore via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:45:29 AM *Subject: *Re: Amazon Peering
Similar experiences here with Amazon. Initially had semi-regular responses from their peering team, they issued LOAs, I ordered the x-connects and then radio silence for months. At the point now where I'm disconnecting x-connects since it's a waste of money.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:49 AM Brooks Swinnerton <bswinnerton@gmail.com> wrote:
I also saw sessions come up this weekend, no routes yet though.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:56 PM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
Mike-
Definitely moving forward now. Someone from Amazon was working with my peering group and things started coming up this weekend, so it seems like they're catching up pretty good now.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:45 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc> *To: *"Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> *Cc: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM *Subject: *Re: Amazon Peering
Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze.
They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing.
On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7..
“Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.”
On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year.
They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb.
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net wrote:
> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. > No response yet. > > It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their > peering departments. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com> > *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> > *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM > *Subject: *Amazon Peering > > Hey all, > > Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session > established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two > more times this Sept and Nov with no response. > > I sent to peering@amazon.com and received one automated response > back so I know they received my email but nothing since. > > > > -- > Darin Steffl > Minnesota WiFi > www.mnwifi.com > 507-634-WiFi > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > >
AKA Too Big To Care. Happens a lot. Steven Naslund Chicago IL On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:36 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net<mailto:nanog@ics-il.net>> wrote: Oh, you ordered cross connects for a PNI and they stopped responding mid-project? Isn't that nice! ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ________________________________ From: "Luca Salvatore via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:45:29 AM Subject: Re: Amazon Peering Similar experiences here with Amazon. Initially had semi-regular responses from their peering team, they issued LOAs, I ordered the x-connects and then radio silence for months. At the point now where I'm disconnecting x-connects since it's a waste of money. On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:49 AM Brooks Swinnerton <bswinnerton@gmail.com<mailto:bswinnerton@gmail.com>> wrote: I also saw sessions come up this weekend, no routes yet though. On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:56 PM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc<mailto:beecher@beecher.cc>> wrote: Mike- Definitely moving forward now. Someone from Amazon was working with my peering group and things started coming up this weekend, so it seems like they're catching up pretty good now. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:45 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net<mailto:nanog@ics-il.net>> wrote: Let us know your success as well. I'll hold off following up on my requests until I see that other people are successful. I don't want to contribute to flooding them with requests. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ________________________________ From: "Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc<mailto:beecher@beecher.cc>> To: "Jason Lixfeld" <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca<mailto:jason%2Bnanog@lixfeld.ca>> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:38:51 PM Subject: Re: Amazon Peering Thanks Jason. I'll have my peering team take another crack at reaching out and see what happens. Appreciate it! On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca<mailto:jason%2Bnanog@lixfeld.ca>> wrote: We circled back with them yesterday on a request we made in late November where at the time they said they wouldn’t be turned up until 2019 due to holiday network change freeze. They responded within about 4 hours, thanked us for our patience and understanding and said we should expect them to be turned up in about 6 weeks, which is apparently their typical timing. On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc<mailto:beecher@beecher.cc>> wrote: I hate to necro-thread , but has anyone seen any movement from Amazon on this? I just got a Strongly Worded Message about it, and according to my peering team , it's been radio silence for months. On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request submitted on Aug7.. “Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.” On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com<mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> wrote: It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering requests for a year. They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all the other contacts listed in peeringdb. Thanks On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net<mailto:nanog@ics-il.net> wrote: I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No response yet. It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering departments. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com<http://www.ics-il.com/> Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> ________________________________ From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl@mnwifi.com<mailto:darin.steffl@mnwifi.com>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM Subject: Amazon Peering Hey all, Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this Sept and Nov with no response. I sent to peering@amazon.com<mailto:peering@amazon.com> and received one automated response back so I know they received my email but nothing since. -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
I'm sure ~ $20k/yr in time cost alone per 10G has nothing to do with that... :p Although to be fair, the individual from Amazon who my peering group has been working with after my first message has been really, really great. As with many things, the people are great, just not enough resources I'm sure. On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 1:39 PM Denis Fondras <xxnog@ledeuns.net> wrote:
Yup, super professional of them.
Have you tried to order a port on DirectConnect to check if it was hassleless ? :p
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