On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote:
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here?
Sometimes, it's not "almost". Just 3 months ago: <http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00208.html>
I would like to take this opportunity to publicly shame eBay, who decided to fire one of their engineers for disclosing their "proprietary" methods for defending against DoS in the recent NANOG thread.
jc
I'd think there would be more constructive things to do by management than read nanog for questionable posts. If I were managing someone and they posted their feeling on a subject and clearly said it was their own who am I to have a problem with that. It might be in my best interest and listen to them then silence them.
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Ukyo Kuonji wrote:
Sorry, but there are valid reasons for posting anonymously. As one person that almost got fired from a company for expressing what was clearly
marked
as his own opinion to this list, I can attest to this. Some employers are concerned that you post during working hours, some are concerned that you use a work address, some are concerned that anything you say, no matter what email you use, will be considered as representations of the company's direction, even if it is clearly marked as not.
I like helping and sharing my opinions, but I'm not willing to loose my job over it.
UK
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 00:13:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Wallingford <brian@meganet.net>
Perhaps it's time to bar posting privileges from those who insist on remaining entirely anonymous?
I doubt that anyone who has anything substantive to offer would need to use a hushmail/yahoo/etc. return address.
The initial posts from Bandy, Vaul, et al were mildly amusing at first, but the novelty wore out very quickly.
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Once upon a time, JC Dill <nanog@vo.cnchost.com> said:
On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote:
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here?
Sometimes, it's not "almost". Just 3 months ago:
<http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00208.html>
Which was followed up with: <http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00219.html> and I don't see any further discussion on that particular topic (I'll make the same disclaimer as the sender of the second message: I don't know one way or the other what might have happened or not happened or which sender is correct). Any other references to this kind of thing happening? -- Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 08:22:58AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, JC Dill <nanog@vo.cnchost.com> said:
On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote:
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here?
Sometimes, it's not "almost". Just 3 months ago:
<http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00208.html>
Which was followed up with:
<http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00219.html>
and I don't see any further discussion on that particular topic (I'll make the same disclaimer as the sender of the second message: I don't know one way or the other what might have happened or not happened or which sender is correct). Any other references to this kind of thing happening?
As the sender of the second message - it was a caution that people should investigate, not a statement that it didn't happen. All of the evidence I could gather indicate that it did, in fact, happen in at least some form. At the very least, other employees (whom I have know for years) said that he was gone, as of the date in question. They were not told the cause (as would be expected in most companies). Granted, believeing this means you'd have to trust *my* legwork. Or do your own. However, the 'almost' case certainly can't be argued. Just check the archives for the number of folks who've posted at the end of some thread about being 'asked to stop'. -- *************************************************************************** Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com lucifer@lightbearer.com http://users.lightbearer.com/lucifer/
Don't forget general kookery where you make a customer mad, a usenet poster, or some other irrational personality and they contact your employer to detail everything they know about you like posting to rec.cannabis, soc.motss, etc. It's interferring in a business relationship, but most of 'em don't care. I'm all for anonymity -- even here. On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Joel Baker wrote:
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 08:22:58AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, JC Dill <nanog@vo.cnchost.com> said:
On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote:
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here?
Sometimes, it's not "almost". Just 3 months ago:
<http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00208.html>
Which was followed up with:
<http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00219.html>
and I don't see any further discussion on that particular topic (I'll make the same disclaimer as the sender of the second message: I don't know one way or the other what might have happened or not happened or which sender is correct). Any other references to this kind of thing happening?
As the sender of the second message - it was a caution that people should investigate, not a statement that it didn't happen.
All of the evidence I could gather indicate that it did, in fact, happen in at least some form. At the very least, other employees (whom I have know for years) said that he was gone, as of the date in question. They were not told the cause (as would be expected in most companies).
Granted, believeing this means you'd have to trust *my* legwork. Or do your own. However, the 'almost' case certainly can't be argued. Just check the archives for the number of folks who've posted at the end of some thread about being 'asked to stop'. -- *************************************************************************** Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com lucifer@lightbearer.com http://users.lightbearer.com/lucifer/
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