In article <10171.175034.25348@avi.netaxs.com> you wrote: : Ironically after I sent the last NANOG message I checked the : http://internetpulse.com site again, and QWEST have improved : their performance, so the Internet is apparently "healthier" now : than it was when Code Red started this morning. I'm not sure I'd put a lot of faith in internetpulse.com measurements... Better than matrix.net (who exists to make keynote look good), but not by very much. For example, "sprint to sprint" is now showing red, and digging in, it's "phoenix" to "phoenix" is 195ms. From one keynote machine in a rack to another? Riiiiiight. Avi