Folk, This is like the insurance industry basing rates on auto make/model. While that is one factor, the much more important factor is the driver. It's the user, not the MTA, that 'spreads' viri. This problem is not limited to AOL/MSNites. And if techies are so much better why are there compromised IIS, Apache, FTP, etc. machines around months and often years after fix releases? To paraphrase someone you may be familiar with, Be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept. I'm much more interested in the message than the medium. :) -Al Rowland Just my 2¢, feel free to use your delete key." -----Original Message----- From: Matthew S. Hallacy [mailto:poptix@techmonkeys.org] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:32 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in ATT attachments. Its annoying and no one can see your message On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 09:36:43PM -0700, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: [snip]

The breakdown:

Microsoft 38.71% (not even half the way to 90%) Mozilla 11.41% Eudora 10.86% ELM 6.63% exmh 5.25% Web Mail 5.20% Mutt 4.70% New MH 3.64% VM 2.36% Mulberry 1.90% Gnus 1.27% MH 0.96%

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--msa

Close, but no banana for you: 26.1534 percent, Pine 20.2465 percent, Microsoft Total (Outlook, Outlook Express, Exchange, etc) 15.5250 percent, Mutt 7.7120 percent, Microsoft Outlook 7.6985 percent, Internet Mail Service (Exchange) 5.7049 percent, Eudora 5.2738 percent, Mozilla (Netscape) 4.7013 percent, Microsoft Outlook Express 3.6102 percent, Unknown (536 messages were not identifiable) 3.2734 percent, Elm 2.1823 percent, exmh 1.6232 percent, Web Mail 1.4144 percent, Gnus/Emacs 1.2326 percent, Mulberry 0.9160 percent, VM 0.7139 percent, Yahoo! 0.4715 percent, Hotmail 0.3839 percent, Lotus Notes 0.3166 percent, The Bat! 0.3031 percent, KMail 0.2896 percent, Apple Mail 0.2694 percent, Pocomail 0.2694 percent, MH 0.2627 percent, Evolution 0.2088 percent, DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 0.2021 percent, Mahogany 0.1414 percent, Squirrel Mail 0.1414 percent, CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer 0.1347 percent, mh-e 0.1145 percent, IMail 0.1078 percent, Sylpheed 0.1010 percent, Microsoft-Entourage 0.1010 percent, Mew version x.xx on Emacs 0.0943 percent, dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 0.0741 percent, Tellurian WebMail 0.0674 percent, tin 0.0674 percent, Forte Agent 0.0539 percent, My Own Email 0.0471 percent, ZMail 0.0471 percent, Mail User's Shell 0.0404 percent, MailRoom For Internet Mail 0.0269 percent, stuphead ver. 0.5.3 (Wiskas) 0.0269 percent, MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) 0.0202 percent, your-mom-encapsulated-in-smtp 0.0202 percent, Vivian Mail 0.0202 percent, PostOffice 0.0202 percent, Mirapoint Webmail Direct 0.0202 percent, Becky! 0.0135 percent, Excite Inbox 0.0135 percent, /bin/bash 0.0135 percent, AeroMail 0.0067 percent, XFMail 0.0067 percent, WorldClient Standard 0.0067 percent, TWIG 0.0067 percent, The Rodent, go figure. 0.0067 percent, TBBS/TIGER v1.0/PRIMP 1.56p 0.0067 percent, slrn 0.0067 percent, Opera 0.0067 percent, emacs 20.5.1 (via feedmail 8 I) 0.0067 percent, Calypso Total messages: 14847 This resulted from checking X-Mailer, User-Agent, and Message-ID as a last resort (yahoo, hotmail, pine..), timespan is from Feb 2001 to now. -- Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203