At 02:40 PM 06/15/97 PDT, Randy Bush wrote:
Maybe Stan should subscribe it to the outage lists of all major ISPs.
I like this suggestion.
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Okey. I could do this. Let me hear from more folks about it. -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob@academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: {mcsun|amdahl}!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.
It's a good idea. Dave According to Stan Barber:
At 02:40 PM 06/15/97 PDT, Randy Bush wrote:
Maybe Stan should subscribe it to the outage lists of all major ISPs.
I like this suggestion.
- paul
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Okey. I could do this. Let me hear from more folks about it.
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Excellent idea. On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Stan Barber wrote:
At 02:40 PM 06/15/97 PDT, Randy Bush wrote:
Maybe Stan should subscribe it to the outage lists of all major ISPs.
I like this suggestion.
- paul
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Okey. I could do this. Let me hear from more folks about it.
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Stan very good idea paul On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Stan Barber wrote:
At 02:40 PM 06/15/97 PDT, Randy Bush wrote:
Maybe Stan should subscribe it to the outage lists of all major ISPs.
I like this suggestion.
- paul
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Okey. I could do this. Let me hear from more folks about it.
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Wonderful that all you folks this it's a great idea nad all, but it's already been done. That's what outage@dal.net is for. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This collection of lists is provided as a DALnet service - http://www.dal.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail majordomo@dal.net with a body of 'unsubscribe outage' Let's PLEASE AVOID having MULTIPLE LISTS FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. --jhawk
From: Paul Love <epl@pauline.sdsc.edu> To: Stan Barber <sob@academ.com> Cc: outage-discuss@academ.com, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Internet outages In-Reply-To: <199706161538.KAA25004@academ.com> Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.96.970616133043.17591B-100000@pauline.sdsc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-outage-discuss@academ.com Precedence: bulk
Stan
very good idea
paul On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Stan Barber wrote:
At 02:40 PM 06/15/97 PDT, Randy Bush wrote:
Maybe Stan should subscribe it to the outage lists of all major ISPs.
I like this suggestion.
- paul
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Okey. I could do this. Let me hear from more folks about it.
-- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob@academ.com
I think it's a great idea, the DAL list contains alot of non-routing related outage information -- it appears to be extremely dal-centric, talking about hosts which are down which serve specific applications -- however, it does have the sprintlink outage information. Do you think DAL would want to have added alot of other OUTAGE reports which don't effect them? I think it would be good if Stan used and setup an outage list which could have reports which were of interest beyond those interesting to DAL. Pete
Wonderful that all you folks this it's a great idea nad all, but it's already been done.
That's what outage@dal.net is for.
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Recently, Pete Bowden talked about "Re: Internet outages", and said
I think it's a great idea, the DAL list contains alot of non-routing related outage information -- it appears to be extremely dal-centric, talking about hosts which are down which serve specific applications -- however, it does have the sprintlink outage information.
Do you think DAL would want to have added alot of other OUTAGE reports which don't effect them?
I think it would be good if Stan used and setup an outage list which could have reports which were of interest beyond those interesting to DAL.
That was part of the idea behind IPN, originally, at least as I understood it. You have essentially two primary types of outages; scheduled, and unscheduled. If you knew in advance, you put it on the IPN pages. If you didn't know, you generally were in enough trouble, or enough off the air you couldn't get out to mail other people saying you were down. :-) I'm sure we'd be glad to gateway internex.outages to a mailing list to keep people informed, if they were so inclined and interested... Matt
Pete
Wonderful that all you folks this it's a great idea nad all, but it's already been done.
That's what outage@dal.net is for.
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Pete Bowden put this into my mailbox:
I think it's a great idea, the DAL list contains alot of non-routing related outage information -- it appears to be extremely dal-centric, talking about hosts which are down which serve specific applications -- however, it does have the sprintlink outage information.
Do you think DAL would want to have added alot of other OUTAGE reports which don't effect them?
I've been watching that, and lately it seems that the DALnet-centric traffic has far outweighed the Sprint/other net traffic. What I'm going to do is split it into two lists; the main 'outage@dal.net' list will remain general internet backbone style outage-centric, and I'm going to create another list for DALnet outages. I'll post more info to outage@dal.net likely by Tues. or Wed. afternoon (as well as here, if people want), basically as soon as I get a chance to set the list up on a connection faster than my current one.
I think it would be good if Stan used and setup an outage list which could have reports which were of interest beyond those interesting to DAL.
Actually - if Stan has better luck than I at getting providers to direct outage notices to his list, I'd be perfectly willing to defer to him or to subscribe outage@dal.net to his list, or whatever seems appropriate. All that really matters is that we try and have someplace where backbone-types can post notice of problems so that people are aware of them and can offer an informed answer to people and perhaps do better at working around a problem or solving it. -dalvenjah -- Dalvenjah FoxFire (aka Sven Nielsen) I once heard the voice of God. It Founder, the DALnet IRC Network said "Vrrrrrmmmmmm." Unless it was just a lawn mower. e-mail: dalvenjah@dal.net WWW: http://www.dal.net/~dalvenjah/ whois: SN90 Try DALnet! http://www.dal.net/
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, John Hawkinson wrote: The problem is that outage@dal.net contains much much much more noise than most network operators would care about. The posts regarding IRC servers and channel services and all the IRC garbage are what makes the S:n very low and the interest very low as well. ==>Wonderful that all you folks this it's a great idea nad all, ==>but it's already been done. ==> ==>That's what outage@dal.net is for. ==> ==>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==> This collection of lists is provided as a DALnet service - http://www.dal.net/ ==> To unsubscribe, e-mail majordomo@dal.net with a body of 'unsubscribe outage' ==> ==> ==>Let's PLEASE AVOID having MULTIPLE LISTS FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. ==> ==>--jhawk ==> ==>> From: Paul Love <epl@pauline.sdsc.edu> ==>> To: Stan Barber <sob@academ.com> ==>> Cc: outage-discuss@academ.com, nanog@merit.edu ==>> Subject: Re: Internet outages ==>> In-Reply-To: <199706161538.KAA25004@academ.com> ==>> Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.96.970616133043.17591B-100000@pauline.sdsc.edu> ==>> Mime-Version: 1.0 ==>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ==>> Sender: owner-outage-discuss@academ.com ==>> Precedence: bulk ==>> ==>> ==>> Stan ==>> ==>> very good idea ==>> ==>> ==>> paul ==>> On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Stan Barber wrote: ==>> ==>> > > At 02:40 PM 06/15/97 PDT, Randy Bush wrote: ==>> > > ==>> > > > ==>> > > >Maybe Stan should subscribe it to the outage lists of all major ISPs. ==>> > > ==>> > > I like this suggestion. ==>> > > ==>> > > - paul ==>> > > ==>> > > ==>> > > This mailing list is hosted by Academ Consulting Services. ==>> > ==>> > ==>> > Okey. I could do this. Let me hear from more folks about it. ==>> > ==>> > -- ==>> > Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob@academ.com ==>
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