deny ip 198.32.146.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (543 matches) deny ip 198.32.176.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (10 matches) deny ip 192.157.69.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (96 matches) deny ip 198.32.128.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (335 matches)
ya, ya, teh last four aren't rfc1918 but i filter them anyway (nap dmz's) :) lot's of people announcing them. the first two are the only rfc1918 nets i see announced on our nap routers.
I used to wonder about announcing them too. I came up with reasons on both sides, and in the end decided it didn't matter for real traffic. Real traffic isn't sourced or destined for the exchange point networks. On the other hand, the users most likely to send traffic to or from an exchange point network are also the network engineers configuring the announcements. Announcing the networks make network debugging (and other network hacking) a lot easier. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
deny ip 198.32.146.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (543 matches) deny ip 198.32.176.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (10 matches) deny ip 192.157.69.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (96 matches) deny ip 198.32.128.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 (335 matches)
ya, ya, teh last four aren't rfc1918 but i filter them anyway (nap dmz's) :) lot's of people announcing them. the first two are the only rfc1918 nets i see announced on our nap routers.
I used to wonder about announcing them too. I came up with reasons on both sides, and in the end decided it didn't matter for real traffic. Real traffic isn't sourced or destined for the exchange point networks. On the other hand, the users most likely to send traffic to or from an exchange point network are also the network engineers configuring the announcements. Announcing the networks make network debugging (and other network hacking) a lot easier.
Same conclusion. So we carry public mesh routes internally, but do not (intentionally) announce them. The point could be made that, by not announcing them to peers, we are not helping our peers when they are trying to get to a box which has its FDDI up but its WAN down. On the other hand, if everybody announces, that's a lot of rubbish. So everybody whose interface MOD X, for some smallish value of X, is zero announces? Bill, it would be cool if you SWIPped the public /24s. It would make life easier for curious folk (some of us don't know MAE-LA's mesh offhand), and Kim ain't gonna give you any more unless you do <g>. randy
Bill, it would be cool if you SWIPped the public /24s. It would make life easier for curious folk (some of us don't know MAE-LA's mesh offhand), and Kim ain't gonna give you any more unless you do <g>.
randy
Thats what rwhois is for.. (we hate swips) Now if Scott can fix the prefix problems in rwhois.... -- --bill
Bill, it would be cool if you SWIPped the public /24s. It would make life easier for curious folk (some of us don't know MAE-LA's mesh offhand), and Kim ain't gonna give you any more unless you do <g>. Thats what rwhois is for.. (we hate swips) Now if Scott can fix the prefix problems in rwhois....
There are many ways to skin a cat. Currently, we are all eating fur. And I, for one, am not overly curious about why. [ Having tried rwhois a couple of times, SWIP began to have appeal. ] randy
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bmanning@ISI.EDU
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randy@psg.com
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Sean Donelan