It has been a couple of decades since I've done any BGP in anger, but it looks like I will be jumping into the deep end again, soon, and I desperately need to get up to speed again. There seem to be a lot of good guides out there from Cisco, Juniper, and the like, but naturally they are very product oriented. What I'm looking for is more like the Stevens networking bibles (i.e. "BGP Illustrated Vol I and II"). Something that covers more than just the raw protocols, and includes things like RPKI. (The world sure has changed since the last time I was doing this!) Any/all suggestions welcome. Thanks! --lyndon
On 4/25/23 3:55 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:
It has been a couple of decades since I've done any BGP in anger, but it looks like I will be jumping into the deep end again, soon, and I desperately need to get up to speed again.
There seem to be a lot of good guides out there from Cisco, Juniper, and the like, but naturally they are very product oriented. What I'm looking for is more like the Stevens networking bibles (i.e. "BGP Illustrated Vol I and II"). Something that covers more than just the raw protocols, and includes things like RPKI. (The world sure has changed since the last time I was doing this!)
Any/all suggestions welcome.
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 7:20 PM, Steven G. Huter <sghuter@nsrc.org> wrote:
On 4/25/23 3:55 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:
It has been a couple of decades since I've done any BGP in anger, but it looks like I will be jumping into the deep end again, soon, and I desperately need to get up to speed again.
There seem to be a lot of good guides out there from Cisco, Juniper, and the like, but naturally they are very product oriented. What I'm looking for is more like the Stevens networking bibles (i.e. "BGP Illustrated Vol I and II"). Something that covers more than just the raw protocols, and includes things like RPKI. (The world sure has changed since the last time I was doing this!)
Any/all suggestions welcome.
Yes, this. Much of it (all of it?) is presented by Philip Smith, and he's a sufficiently entertaining speaker that it's worth watching even if you are already a bgp "expert". As for books — I used to buy a copy of "BGP4: Inter-Domain Routing in the Internet" by John W Stewart for all of my new hires — https://amzn.to/3VdqdfK . It's really short and sweet, and covers just the stuff that you need to know. It is old at this point (1998!), but still well worth the read. W
Steve
“between 0x2 nerds”
Get in my Podcatcher! Where is the RSS feed!? On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 at 06:12, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are looking for BGP in DC (either unicast and/or VPN) we (Jeff Doyle and I) have published a significant number of podcasts on “between 0x2 nerds”(from basic BGP to EVPN to BGP security to HW) - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMYH1xDLIabuZCr1Yeoo39enogPA2yJB7
Cheers, Jeff
On Apr 27, 2023, at 15:37, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 7:20 PM, Steven G. Huter <sghuter@nsrc.org> wrote:
On 4/25/23 3:55 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:
It has been a couple of decades since I've done any BGP in anger, but it looks like I will be jumping into the deep end again, soon, and I desperately need to get up to speed again.
There seem to be a lot of good guides out there from Cisco, Juniper, and the like, but naturally they are very product oriented. What I'm looking for is more like the Stevens networking bibles (i.e. "BGP Illustrated Vol I and II"). Something that covers more than just the raw protocols, and includes things like RPKI. (The world sure has changed since the last time I was doing this!)
Any/all suggestions welcome.
Yes, this. Much of it (all of it?) is presented by Philip Smith, and he's a sufficiently entertaining speaker that it's worth watching even if you are already a bgp "expert".
As for books — I used to buy a copy of "BGP4: Inter-Domain Routing in the Internet" by John W Stewart for all of my new hires — https://amzn.to/3VdqdfK . It's really short and sweet, and covers just the stuff that you need to know. It is old at this point (1998!), but still well worth the read.
W
Steve
Depending on how many years since you last looked at BGP, you may be shocked at how many address families BGP now carries… it’s very Multi-Protocol now. MP-BGP I’ll always remember how informative the Basam Halabi book was. Also the Ivan Peplnjak MPLS VPN book. Both have a couple editions. Those are oldies but goodies. More recently is MPLS in the SDN era. But it seems the SR/SPRING will be the most recent topics to study, I think that’s were BGP-LU comes in. I need to get a book and read too Aaron
On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:56 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
It has been a couple of decades since I've done any BGP in anger, but it looks like I will be jumping into the deep end again, soon, and I desperately need to get up to speed again.
There seem to be a lot of good guides out there from Cisco, Juniper, and the like, but naturally they are very product oriented. What I'm looking for is more like the Stevens networking bibles (i.e. "BGP Illustrated Vol I and II"). Something that covers more than just the raw protocols, and includes things like RPKI. (The world sure has changed since the last time I was doing this!)
Any/all suggestions welcome.
Thanks!
--lyndon
Hello, my two cents. For a general overview: Internet Routing with BGP, van Beijnum, Iljitsch on Amazon/Kindle, 2022 For deep dive: Troubleshooting BGP: A Practical Guide to Understanding and Troubleshooting, Cisco Press, 2016, 978-1587144646 BR Jörg On 26 Apr 2023, at 0:55, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote:
It has been a couple of decades since I've done any BGP in anger, but it looks like I will be jumping into the deep end again, soon, and I desperately need to get up to speed again.
There seem to be a lot of good guides out there from Cisco, Juniper, and the like, but naturally they are very product oriented. What I'm looking for is more like the Stevens networking bibles (i.e. "BGP Illustrated Vol I and II"). Something that covers more than just the raw protocols, and includes things like RPKI. (The world sure has changed since the last time I was doing this!)
Any/all suggestions welcome.
Thanks!
--lyndon
participants (7)
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Aaron1
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Jason Leschnik
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Jeff Tantsura
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Jörg Kost
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Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
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Steven G. Huter
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Warren Kumari