AS discovery tools / CAIDA
A while back I saw a demo of an applet that would display AS number as they connect to each other and a color indication of the number of route flaps within each AS. But, of course, my memory is too poor to remember which NANOG conference it was or what the name of the tool was. I'm specifically looking for a tool that will show an AS and what other networks connect to it (I don't really care about route flaps). I've done a quick scan of the NANOG site and CAIDA, but didn't find it. ____________________________________________ Curtis Owings phone: 913-534-2322 Sprint Broadband cell: 913-706-6157 BSC Engineer page: 1-800-724-3508 OP, KS <clowings@sprintparanet.com> ____________________________________________ "Your enemy is not evil in his own mind."
Does anyone know if there is an FCC or other Federal mandate or regulation requiring Cable companies to provide cable service to all dwellings within their alloted geographic area? Paul Donner Consulting Engineering Office of the CTO Internet Architecture ciscoSystems, Inc.
FCC regs for cable are all* in: http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/cfr/1998/47cfr76... and http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/cfr/1998/47cfr78... -faisal -*that I know of Paul G. Donner writes:
Does anyone know if there is an FCC or other Federal mandate or regulation requiring Cable companies to provide cable service to all dwellings within their alloted geographic area? Paul Donner Consulting Engineering Office of the CTO Internet Architecture ciscoSystems, Inc.
At 12:08 PM 01/11/2000 -0500, Paul G. Donner wrote:
Does anyone know if there is an FCC or other Federal mandate or regulation requiring Cable companies to provide cable service to all dwellings within their alloted geographic area? Paul Donner Consulting Engineering Office of the CTO Internet Architecture ciscoSystems, Inc.
I don't believe that this is regulated by the FCC. In my part of the world (Massachusetts) each town negotiates coverage within the town. We recently re-negotiated our contract, the clauses usually will say "Will provide service to any dwelling up to 200 feet from a public way". So, if your house is 1/4 mile from any road, you need to negotiate a price with the local cable company. -Steve
As expected, I got a bazillion responses. Thanks to all. The overwhelming consensus is that the key to finding if there is/are any monopoly controls lies with the franchising authority, generally the local municipality, rather than the Federal government. There was one response in which the person felt that the Federal govenerment did have some jurisdiction and I will look further into this to see if it leads anywhere. Paul Donner Consulting Engineering Office of the CTO Internet Architecture ciscoSystems, Inc.
curtis if you mean the www.caida.org/Tools/Skitter/ thingie it's a hyperbolic viewer dwm@caida built on code developed by Tamara Munzner (Stanford) http://graphics.stanford.EDU/~munzner/h3/ so far it works with mrtd routing table data, (and almost with the subconsistent cisco output) and skitter topology output files, more in future as development cycles permit availability still limited k On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 09:35:54AM -0600, curtis l owings wrote: A while back I saw a demo of an applet that would display AS number as they connect to each other and a color indication of the number of route flaps within each AS. But, of course, my memory is too poor to remember which NANOG conference it was or what the name of the tool was. I'm specifically looking for a tool that will show an AS and what other networks connect to it (I don't really care about route flaps). I've done a quick scan of the NANOG site and CAIDA, but didn't find it. ____________________________________________ Curtis Owings phone: 913-534-2322 Sprint Broadband cell: 913-706-6157 BSC Engineer page: 1-800-724-3508 OP, KS <clowings@sprintparanet.com> ____________________________________________ "Your enemy is not evil in his own mind."
Along these same lines, is there a tool to recursively determine how many prefixes are being announced behind each AS, even for AS not directly peered with and not directly terminating traffic? (numbers are only for example) For example: 1.1.1.0/24 AS 1 2 3 4 5 6 1.1.2.0/24 AS 10 2 3 4 11 12 1.1.3.0/24 AS 10 2 3 16 6 1.1.4.0/24 AS 15 6 Say AS 2 is a large regional European ISP that buys transit from AS 1 and 10 that may be in a region were we have a presence, but for some reason we are not directly peering with them. I would like to figure out a way to determine how much traffic we are passing through AS 2 in this example. The only way I could think of it was aggregating netflow prefix data, which seems horrible to me and doesn't handle a prefix where I am trying to generate data for several ASes. And we can't just aggregate the sum of AS2's customers because some of their customers are not announcing all of their prefixes from the same connections. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Deepak Jain AiNET On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, k claffy wrote:
curtis
if you mean the www.caida.org/Tools/Skitter/ thingie
it's a hyperbolic viewer dwm@caida built on code developed by Tamara Munzner (Stanford) http://graphics.stanford.EDU/~munzner/h3/
so far it works with mrtd routing table data, (and almost with the subconsistent cisco output) and skitter topology output files, more in future as development cycles permit
availability still limited k
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 09:35:54AM -0600, curtis l owings wrote: A while back I saw a demo of an applet that would display AS number as they connect to each other and a color indication of the number of route flaps within each AS. But, of course, my memory is too poor to remember which NANOG conference it was or what the name of the tool was.
I'm specifically looking for a tool that will show an AS and what other networks connect to it (I don't really care about route flaps).
I've done a quick scan of the NANOG site and CAIDA, but didn't find it.
____________________________________________ Curtis Owings phone: 913-534-2322 Sprint Broadband cell: 913-706-6157 BSC Engineer page: 1-800-724-3508 OP, KS <clowings@sprintparanet.com> ____________________________________________ "Your enemy is not evil in his own mind."
participants (6)
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curtis l owings
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Deepak Jain
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Faisal Jawdat
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k claffy
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Paul G. Donner
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Steve Meuse