My advice to you is to use a third party provider like Radianz, TNS or Sector (SIAC owned company). They can take a lot of headaches away from this. David is right, you can't connect to SIAC directly any more, that's a legacy network (called so by SIAC) and are phasing it out. Again, if you are in CA then use one of the above mentioned providers. It's cost effective and faster then if you were dealing with SFTI directly. BTW, to everybody, please don't write back saying that third party providers are NO GOOD or that you had bad experiences with them. I'm well aware of all this and don't need a lecture on it. My opinion (and I have been dealing with all of them extensivly for a long time) if you are in CA, use them it takes away lot of headaches (make sure you're redundant with them) and gets you up and running fast. My prefered way of connecting would either be Radianz or Sector, I don't like TNS (to all TNS guys outthere, sorry). Hope this helps. AC On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 06:01:36AM -0700, Philip Lavine wrote:
I am assuming this means that I have a POP on the East Coast. I am Burbank California, currently.
--- Alen Capalik <alen@wiretapnetworks.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:36:16AM -0700, Philip Lavine wrote:
If I where to connect to SIAC thru a SONNET ring
who's
would it be? Is it private or public?
They use any provider (Verizon, MCI, AT&T and ConEd Comm.), however ConED Comm. is their primary backbone provider. So, here's how you go about it. You order a line (DS-1, DS-3, 100Mb/s, Gig, whatever) from any of the providers you use (if I were you I would use either Verizon or ConEd Comm, I can give you the number for ConEd Comm. head sales person). You contact SIAC, and you start the paperwork to get your network connected into their backbone SONET. Once you get permit numbers, you have the provider drop a line into one of 5 data centers around NY area, and SIAC gives you a port on one of their Juniper Routers. They also give you a VLAN setup requirements so you can configure your border switch/router. The line is owned by you. SIAC only gives you a port on their routers. NOTE: NEVER ORDER ONE LINE. ORDER TWO OR MORE LINES TO DIFFERENT SIAC DATA CENTERS. The cost for one port (one line) is as follows:
MRC (Monthly Reaccuring Cost): $4,400.00 NRC (Non-Reaccuring Cost i.e. one time fee): $8,800
Any line you drop at SIAC will cost you that amount, and that's on top of the line costs from the provider. That's it. Hope this helps. Like I said it's a very long and tedious process getting the line up and running with SIAC. They are practically a government institution, and they don't move too fast for anybody.
--- "R. Benjamin Kessler" <rbk@midwestnsg.com>
wrote:
I've setup a highly-redundant connection for one
my clients (equipment in two different access-centers in two different cities).
What are you looking to do?
- Ben
~~~~~~~~~~ R. Benjamin Kessler Sr. Network Consultant CCIE #8762, CISSP, CCSE Midwest Network Services Group Email: rbk@midwestnsg.com http://www.midwestnsg.com Phone: 260-625-3273
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Does anyone have experience in setting up a
of direct
connection with NYSE, specifically SIAC or SFTI?
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I would prefer not to use a third party provider because of the IP backbone. My experience has been witht eh third party providers is that there is not enough responsiveness (packet loss issues) to burstable traffic at market open and close. Unfortunately when the third party networks were designed there was no forethought into the need for market data traffic or multicast. They were concentrating on FIX and CMS traffic which is low volume low BW TCP traffic. I think the real answer here is to be as close to SFTI as possible if you intend to go direct. Hosting at 2 or more SFTI DC's seems is the best option. Direct local access seems second best --- Alen Capalik <alen@wiretapnetworks.com> wrote:
My advice to you is to use a third party provider like Radianz, TNS or Sector (SIAC owned company). They can take a lot of headaches away from this. David is right, you can't connect to SIAC directly any more, that's a legacy network (called so by SIAC) and are phasing it out. Again, if you are in CA then use one of the above mentioned providers. It's cost effective and faster then if you were dealing with SFTI directly. BTW, to everybody, please don't write back saying that third party providers are NO GOOD or that you had bad experiences with them. I'm well aware of all this and don't need a lecture on it. My opinion (and I have been dealing with all of them extensivly for a long time) if you are in CA, use them it takes away lot of headaches (make sure you're redundant with them) and gets you up and running fast. My prefered way of connecting would either be Radianz or Sector, I don't like TNS (to all TNS guys outthere, sorry). Hope this helps.
AC
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 06:01:36AM -0700, Philip Lavine wrote:
I am assuming this means that I have a POP on the East Coast. I am Burbank California, currently.
--- Alen Capalik <alen@wiretapnetworks.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:36:16AM -0700, Philip Lavine wrote:
If I where to connect to SIAC thru a SONNET
ring
who's
would it be? Is it private or public?
They use any provider (Verizon, MCI, AT&T and ConEd Comm.), however ConED Comm. is their primary backbone provider. So, here's how you go about it. You order a line (DS-1, DS-3, 100Mb/s, Gig, whatever) from any of the providers you use (if I were you I would use either Verizon or ConEd Comm, I can give you the number for ConEd Comm. head sales person). You contact SIAC, and you start the paperwork to get your network connected into their backbone SONET. Once you get permit numbers, you have the provider drop a line into one of 5 data centers around NY area, and SIAC gives you a port on one of their Juniper Routers. They also give you a VLAN setup requirements so you can configure your border switch/router. The line is owned by you. SIAC only gives you a port on their routers. NOTE: NEVER ORDER ONE LINE. ORDER TWO OR MORE LINES TO DIFFERENT SIAC DATA CENTERS. The cost for one port (one line) is as follows:
MRC (Monthly Reaccuring Cost): $4,400.00 NRC (Non-Reaccuring Cost i.e. one time fee): $8,800
Any line you drop at SIAC will cost you that amount, and that's on top of the line costs from the provider. That's it.
Hope this helps. Like I said it's a very long and tedious process getting the line up and running with SIAC. They are practically a government institution, and they don't move too fast for anybody.
--- "R. Benjamin Kessler" <rbk@midwestnsg.com>
wrote:
I've setup a highly-redundant connection for
my clients (equipment in two different access-centers in two different cities).
What are you looking to do?
- Ben
~~~~~~~~~~ R. Benjamin Kessler Sr. Network Consultant CCIE #8762, CISSP, CCSE Midwest Network Services Group Email: rbk@midwestnsg.com http://www.midwestnsg.com Phone: 260-625-3273
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one of direct
connection with NYSE, specifically SIAC or SFTI?
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I would prefer not to use a third party provider because of the IP backbone. My experience has been witht eh third party providers is that there is not enough responsiveness (packet loss issues) to burstable traffic at market open and close. Unfortunately when the third party networks were designed there was no forethought into the need for market data traffic or multicast.
Hmmm... well I happen to work in Engineering at Radianz. I can assure that our network was designed for multicast so that there are two resilient low latency paths for multicast traffic throughout our network in spite of the tendency of IP to have a single best path. And our basic design rules for network capacity worldwide are to allow for the bursts that happen at U.S. Market Open. The advice to go to a 3rd party provider who specializes in the financial services industry is a good one because we and our competitors tend to understand the special needs of companies in that industry. If you want to discuss this further with one of our technical sales support people, then send me an email and I'll put you in touch. --Michael Dillon
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