-- "Scott Weeks" <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote: [snip]

Yes, you're correct. I didn't mean to say the things you mentioned haven't worked at all. I'm just saying that there has to be a better way than police-type actions on a global scale. Also, I'm sure many more smart people will work on it for many more years and others will make billions more before it's solved. But it needs to be solved on the same playing field that the ugliness is occurring on. You don't solve San Diego's slave trade by kicking ass on Indonesia's pirates.

Last, you're also correct that this is leading nowhere. I made my point and have now beat it to death. Thanks for listening...

scott

Personally, I think there is wiggle-room between what Gadi surmises (persoanlly, I think he is playing Devil's advocate), what everyone else may surmise as an effort into nothingness, and what Vixie professes (if anyone bothered to read what he forwarded -- I did, and very much agree). I actually think there is _a_lot_ which can be, and should be, done. Turning a blind eye is unnacceptable, and right now, ISP's are in the spotlight w.r.t. doing just that: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/soa/ISPs_accused_of_ignoring_botnet_in... There is _major_ room for improvement, so I guess the relevant question becomes: Are people part of the problem or part of the solution? What's the measuring stick? - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/