I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based? Cheers Ryan
Fax hardware/boards that other members have used within service provider environments to deliver services to their end users . -----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:36 AM To: Ryan Finnesey <ryan@finnesey.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards? On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -0000, Ryan Finnesey said:
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based?
What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?
When you use the terms 'SIP' and 'Fax/Board' in the same sentence, it sort of becomes an oxymoron. In the analog world, we used to use 'Carrier grade' Fax/boards made by BrookTrout which was then acquired by Dialogic. (Truefax line), and there were a couple of others.. mostly these were cards with large amount of DSP's used for fax processing multiple channels on digital links (BRI/PRI/T1's etc). Since SIP is a 'communication protocol' which works with IP, there is no need for 'Fax/Board', since all everything needed can be done via software. The only reason one may need Hardware is to convert SIP to traditional TDM (POTS line or PRI/T1/E1 etc). Most of us are used to referring to these devices as IAD's. Having said that, what are you looking to do ? Traditional TDM fax or SIP based FOIP ? :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Finnesey" <ryan@finnesey.com> To: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:41:23 AM Subject: RE: carrier grade fax boards?
Fax hardware/boards that other members have used within service provider environments to deliver services to their end users .
-----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:36 AM To: Ryan Finnesey <ryan@finnesey.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -0000, Ryan Finnesey said:
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based?
What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?
I would not consider any fax board "carrier grade" that uses sip .... sip to pots for faxes is still hit and miss. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:36 AM To: Ryan Finnesey <ryan@finnesey.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards? On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -0000, Ryan Finnesey said:
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based?
What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?
Not really fax board, but there are ATA (analog telephony (?) adapters) that handle fax very well (and others that just suck at it). Certain versions of the Cisco ATA 180 series worked really well even over satellite; others were terrible. It's somewhat of a hit or miss area. How many users are you supporting? If you're looking for a device to just put on-prem at a customer site to handle fax, those ATAs are pretty easy to find. On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Robert Jacobs <rjacobs@pslightwave.com> wrote:
I would not consider any fax board "carrier grade" that uses sip .... sip to pots for faxes is still hit and miss.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:36 AM To: Ryan Finnesey <ryan@finnesey.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -0000, Ryan Finnesey said:
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based?
What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?
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If looking for old school industrial faxing capabilities then maybe something like: https://www.dialogic.com/en/products/fax-boards-and-software/fax-boards.aspx I have a client who used to us them with a custom inbound dictation application and multiple PRIs to feed them (not the fax board, but dialogic) worked well. Not cheap for licensing... -C -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hale Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:14 AM To: Robert Jacobs <rjacobs@pslightwave.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards? Not really fax board, but there are ATA (analog telephony (?) adapters) that handle fax very well (and others that just suck at it). Certain versions of the Cisco ATA 180 series worked really well even over satellite; others were terrible. It's somewhat of a hit or miss area. How many users are you supporting? If you're looking for a device to just put on-prem at a customer site to handle fax, those ATAs are pretty easy to find. On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Robert Jacobs <rjacobs@pslightwave.com> wrote:
I would not consider any fax board "carrier grade" that uses sip .... sip to pots for faxes is still hit and miss.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:36 AM To: Ryan Finnesey <ryan@finnesey.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -0000, Ryan Finnesey said:
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based?
What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?
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On 28/04/2016, at 6:36 pm, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -0000, Ryan Finnesey said:
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based?
What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?
I took it to mean "expensive". :)
100% Dialogic, we are currently using both of their carrier-grade boards and IMG's to deliver fax services in various flavors of transport configurations to end-users and wholesale customers. Pricey, but well worth every penny... MSP/FSP - https://www.dialogic.com/en/products/fax-boards-and-software/foip/fsp.aspx IMG series w/SS7 support - https://www.dialogic.com/en/products/gateways.aspx On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Ryan Finnesey <ryan@finnesey.com> wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards that are SIP based?
Cheers Ryan
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