So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc? I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is. - Zachary
I've been waiting all morning. Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was.. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc? I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is. - Zachary
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs. -Grant On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
At first we saw traffic going directly to Apple (swcdn.apple.com) via our commercial link, then it went to llnw.net, and now it is going to Akamai. access1-srp#traceroute swcdn.apple.com Translating "swcdn.apple.com"...domain server (132.206.44.21) [OK] Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to geo.buni.guat.aaplimg.com (17.253.2.221) 1 internet2-vlan677.GW.McGill.CA (132.216.255.107) [AS 17356] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 vtelinet-216-66-110-108.vermontel.net (216.66.110.108) [AS 17356] 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec 3 206.126.115.175 [AS 17356] 12 msec 8 msec 12 msec ---------- access1-srp#traceroute swcdn.apple.com Translating "swcdn.apple.com"...domain server (132.206.44.21) [OK] Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to apple-dnld.vo.llnwd.net (208.111.128.6) 1 internet2-vlan877.GW.McGill.CA (132.216.255.99) [AS 17356] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 Internet1-vlan710.GW.McGill.CA (192.168.254.4) [AS 15318] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 3 mcgill-gw-qix.risq.net (206.167.128.57) [AS 17356] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 mcgill-qix.dmtrl-rq.risq.net (132.202.52.89) [AS 17356] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 5 imtrl-uq.risq.net (192.77.55.245) [AS 17356] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 6 mtrl2rtr2.canarie.ca (199.212.24.82) [AS 6509] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 7 10ge5-4.fr1.lga.llnw.net (198.32.160.134) [AS 17356] 52 msec 8 msec 12 msec ---------- access1-srp#traceroute swcdn.apple.com Translating "swcdn.apple.com"...domain server (132.206.44.21) [OK] Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to a1271.gi3.akamai.net (206.167.78.23) 1 internet1-vlan876.GW.McGill.CA (132.216.255.97) [AS 17356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 2 mcgill-gw-intrarisq.risq.net (206.167.128.33) [AS 17356] 60 msec 0 msec 0 msec 3 mcgill-intrarisq.dmtrl-rq.risq.net (132.202.42.89) [AS 17356] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 v2257-colo625.risq.net (132.202.45.14) [AS 376] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 5 a1271.gi3.akamai.net (206.167.78.23) [AS 376] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
Depending on the device used, the zip file can range from Length: 1515061530 (1.4G) [application/octet-stream] To Length: 2119504233 (2.0G) [application/octet-stream] Parsed from http://mesu.apple.com/assets/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate/com_apple_... -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Grant Ridder Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:34 PM To: nick@flhsi.com Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Here comes iOS 8... For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs. -Grant On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
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I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
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Grant, Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB. -- Later, Joe On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
Later, I think it requires 5.7G of free space on the device -- but the download is not that big. On 9/18/2014 午前 11:04, JoeSox wrote:
Grant, Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
-- Later, Joe
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | On 2014-09-17 19:04:13, JoeSox wrote: | | Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB. The download is 1.1GB. 5.6GB is required for the actual upgrade. -- bdha
The download was ~1.1GB, the installer requires almost 5GB free to proceed. Tyler. On 9/17/14 9:04 PM, JoeSox wrote:
Grant, Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
-- Later, Joe
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
Interestingly enough, it seems Apple primarily used it's own, new, CDN for the iOS 8 release: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/09/18/apple-chose-to-handle-ios-8-rollou... ---- Andy Ringsmuth andy@newslink.com News Link – Manager Technology & Facilities 2201 Winthrop Rd., Lincoln, NE 68502-4158 (402) 475-6397 (402) 304-0083 cellular
That's we thought and what we experienced but as the day went on they definitely shifted some load to Akamai. -dan Dan Brisson Network Engineer University of Vermont On 9/19/2014 10:33 AM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary Interestingly enough, it seems Apple primarily used it's own, new, CDN for the iOS 8 release:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/09/18/apple-chose-to-handle-ios-8-rollou...
---- Andy Ringsmuth andy@newslink.com News Link – Manager Technology & Facilities 2201 Winthrop Rd., Lincoln, NE 68502-4158 (402) 475-6397 (402) 304-0083 cellular
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Andy Ringsmuth <andy@newslink.com> wrote: [...]
Interestingly enough, it seems Apple primarily used it's own, new, CDN for the iOS 8 release:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/09/18/apple-chose-to-handle-ios-8-rollou...
I noticed same. Moreover, Apple appears to be reaching 701 over 3356/174 in my neck of the woods, which is not the wisest move, due to congestion, and thus painstakingly slow transfer speeds. Null routing 17.253.0.0/16 caused downloads to fall back to Akamai, where performance was quite snappy. (I'm not saying this is a good idea, or recommended at scale -- just sharing my observations.) FWIW, -a
According to devices I have seen numbers have been between 800MB and 1.3GB iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad 2 (3G), iPad Air (LTE) Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander@neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326 On 18/09/2014, at 2:04 pm, JoeSox <joesox@gmail.com> wrote:
Grant, Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
-- Later, Joe
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
Slight differences depending on platform. For my 5S, the OTA patch is 1.1GB, and the clean install is 2.05GB. Both compressed, of course. -Bill
On Sep 17, 2014, at 19:15, "Alexander Neilson" <alexander@neilson.net.nz> wrote:
According to devices I have seen numbers have been between 800MB and 1.3GB
iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad 2 (3G), iPad Air (LTE)
Regards Alexander
Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited
alexander@neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326
On 18/09/2014, at 2:04 pm, JoeSox <joesox@gmail.com> wrote:
Grant, Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
-- Later, Joe
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
Someone just told me its 5GB free space needed. That makes sense where someone could have read it wrong. Thanks. 5GB for for iphone seemed a bit odd. -- Later, Joe On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:04 PM, JoeSox <joesox@gmail.com> wrote:
Grant, Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
-- Later, Joe
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
My reference was the update page in settings said the download was 1.1 gig Grant Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:04 PM, JoeSox <joesox@gmail.com> wrote:
Grant, Do you have a reference? Someone just told me it is more around 5GB.
-- Later, Joe
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wrote:
For those that are curious, it looks like the download is 1.1 gigs.
-Grant
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Nick Olsen <nick@flhsi.com> wrote:
I've been waiting all morning.
Expedited repair of a primary link to prepare for the traffic. Not that it didn't have multiple backups. But one doesn't trifle with IOS8 release traffic.. If it's anything like IOS7 was..
Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
---------------------------------------- From: "Zachary McGibbon" <zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:59 PM To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Here comes iOS 8... So Apple is about to release iOS 8... Have you done anything special to your network setup to accommodate the traffic flood ie traffic shaping rules, cache servers, etc?
I heard that Apple Caching servers won't work with this update, so I'm guessing it will be pushed through Akamai servers as is usually is.
- Zachary
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