RE: Unplugging spamming PCs
What I am proposing is have a registry that you must register with before other mail servers will accept mail from you. Similar to how MAPS RBL works, but the mail server itself, enforces it, rather than a firewall or a ancillary device ACL. This could be made a standard of SMTP. LP Best Regards, Larry Larry Pingree 408-543-2190 "Visionary people, are visionary, partly because of the great many things they never get to see." - Larry Pingree -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shen [mailto:jshen@spymac.com] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:36 PM To: Larry Pingree Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Unplugging spamming PCs Hi,
Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by a registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This really needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution, industry will not fix it alone.
No, I don't think this is good solution First of all, we could not ask customers to register everything they planned with leased line without legal reasons. Second, if I hire DSL/leased_line service from ISP and set up domain name for myself, ISP could not ask me to tell them which port should be opened as I'm not taking a firewalling service, I'm not a member of my service provider. I should be able to do anything that are not perhibited by law or affact someothers. Blocking_port_25 indicates ISP pre-assume that customers will SPAM their network. But, SPAMmer is just a very small group of people. Maybe most of them comes from other countries ( what happens in China). To me, the proper way of anti-spam may ask cooperation between ISPs and Email service providers. Anyway, strengthening anti-spam ability in Email server is a must. regards Joe
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Larry Pingree writes on 6/26/2004 12:11 AM:
What I am proposing is have a registry that you must register with before other mail servers will accept mail from you. Similar to how MAPS RBL works, but the mail server itself, enforces it, rather than a firewall or a ancillary device ACL. This could be made a standard of SMTP.
That's great. Let's all return to the good old days of X400 and UUCP -- suresh ramasubramanian suresh@outblaze.com gpg EDEDEFB9 manager, security and antispam operations, outblaze ltd
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 00:15:37 +0800, Suresh Ramasubramanian said:
That's great. Let's all return to the good old days of X400 and UUCP
I have to congratulate you... it's been a while since anybody's managed to bring back two entirely distinct sets of repressed nightmares in one line. :)
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:11:36 PDT, Larry Pingree said:
What I am proposing is have a registry that you must register with before other mail servers will accept mail from you. Similar to how MAPS RBL works, but the mail server itself, enforces it, rather than a firewall or a ancillary device ACL. This could be made a standard of SMTP.
Yet another "it won't do any good till everybody deploys it". http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html
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