FYI: NANOG and ICANN
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with... -- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-u...
Regards, Hank
You mean they could not come together enough to share even the same page yet even a domain name or central corporation to oversee these needs ? Personally I'm calling partially "bullshit" the Matthew McConaughey way! -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Oct 4, 2021, at 09:33, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with...
-- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-u...
Regards, Hank
Icann meetings used to be great. They are horrible now with few exceptions of several technical sessions. I hope this don’t ruin nanog meetings On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 J. Hellenthal via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
You mean they could not come together enough to share even the same page yet even a domain name or central corporation to oversee these needs ?
Personally I'm calling partially "bullshit" the Matthew McConaughey way!
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Oct 4, 2021, at 09:33, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with...
-- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-u...
Regards, Hank
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
This partnership will have no ill effect on NANOG conferences. The focus of these partnerships are on outreach, technical education and underserved communities in North America. Edward McNair Executive Director emcnair@nanog.org | +1 866-902-1336 ext. 102 | www.nanog.org NANOG | 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USA
On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Icann meetings used to be great. They are horrible now with few exceptions of several technical sessions.
I hope this don’t ruin nanog meetings
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 J. Hellenthal via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: You mean they could not come together enough to share even the same page yet even a domain name or central corporation to oversee these needs ?
Personally I'm calling partially "bullshit" the Matthew McConaughey way!
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Oct 4, 2021, at 09:33, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net <mailto:patrick@ianai.net>> wrote:
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with... <https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-internet-society-icann/>
-- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il <mailto:hank@interall.co.il>> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-u... <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-nanog-27-9-2021-en>
Regards, Hank
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
I see this as a way to allow NANOG to help channel some of ICANN’s incredible excess of funding towards more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far. Owen
On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Edward McNair <emcnair@nanog.org> wrote:
This partnership will have no ill effect on NANOG conferences. The focus of these partnerships are on outreach, technical education and underserved communities in North America.
Edward McNair Executive Director
emcnair@nanog.org <mailto:emcnair@nanog.org> | +1 866-902-1336 ext. 102 | www.nanog.org <http://www.nanog.org/> NANOG | 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USA
On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net <mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote:
Icann meetings used to be great. They are horrible now with few exceptions of several technical sessions.
I hope this don’t ruin nanog meetings
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 J. Hellenthal via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: You mean they could not come together enough to share even the same page yet even a domain name or central corporation to oversee these needs ?
Personally I'm calling partially "bullshit" the Matthew McConaughey way!
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Oct 4, 2021, at 09:33, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net <mailto:patrick@ianai.net>> wrote:
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with... <https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-internet-society-icann/>
-- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il <mailto:hank@interall.co.il>> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-u... <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-nanog-27-9-2021-en>
Regards, Hank
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
I see this as a way to allow NANOG to help channel some of ICANN’s incredible excess of funding towards more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far.
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-and-first-sign-memorand... https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-und... https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/gsma-and-icann-sign-memorandu... https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-und... I suspect that if you think that this will make it rain, you will be sadly disappointed... W
Owen
On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Edward McNair <emcnair@nanog.org> wrote:
This partnership will have no ill effect on NANOG conferences. The focus of these partnerships are on outreach, technical education and underserved communities in North America.
*Edward McNair* Executive Director
emcnair@nanog.org | +1 866-902-1336 ext. 102 | www.nanog.org NANOG | 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USA
On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Icann meetings used to be great. They are horrible now with few exceptions of several technical sessions.
I hope this don’t ruin nanog meetings
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 J. Hellenthal via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
You mean they could not come together enough to share even the same page yet even a domain name or central corporation to oversee these needs ?
Personally I'm calling partially "bullshit" the Matthew McConaughey way!
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Oct 4, 2021, at 09:33, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with...
-- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-u...
Regards, Hank
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
-- The computing scientist’s main challenge is not to get confused by the complexities of his own making. -- E. W. Dijkstra
On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: I see this as a way to allow NANOG to help channel some of ICANN’s incredible excess of funding towards more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far.
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-and-first-sign-memorand... <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-and-first-sign-memorandum-of-understanding-on-dns-threats-mitigation-22-5-2020-en>
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-und... <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-understanding-with-the-georgian-national-communications-commission-7-12-2020-en>
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/gsma-and-icann-sign-memorandu... <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/gsma-and-icann-sign-memorandum-of-understanding-at-gsma-mobile-world-congress-28-2-2018-en>
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-und... <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-understanding-with-the-global-cyber-alliance-16-6-2020-en>
I suspect that if you think that this will make it rain, you will be sadly disappointed...
I don’t expect it will do any good at all. I hope that it will be slightly less damaging than the things ICANN usually spends money on. I trust NANOG to be less destructive than ICANN and as near as I can tell, this partnership is mostly ICANN funding and NANOG doing. Owen
W
Owen
On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Edward McNair <emcnair@nanog.org <mailto:emcnair@nanog.org>> wrote:
This partnership will have no ill effect on NANOG conferences. The focus of these partnerships are on outreach, technical education and underserved communities in North America.
Edward McNair Executive Director
emcnair@nanog.org <mailto:emcnair@nanog.org> | +1 866-902-1336 ext. 102 | www.nanog.org <http://www.nanog.org/> NANOG | 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USA
On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net <mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote:
Icann meetings used to be great. They are horrible now with few exceptions of several technical sessions.
I hope this don’t ruin nanog meetings
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 J. Hellenthal via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: You mean they could not come together enough to share even the same page yet even a domain name or central corporation to oversee these needs ?
Personally I'm calling partially "bullshit" the Matthew McConaughey way!
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Oct 4, 2021, at 09:33, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net <mailto:patrick@ianai.net>> wrote:
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with... <https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-internet-society-icann/>
-- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il <mailto:hank@interall.co.il>> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-u... <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-nanog-27-9-2021-en>
Regards, Hank
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
-- The computing scientist’s main challenge is not to get confused by the complexities of his own making. -- E. W. Dijkstra
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 4:47 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
I see this as a way to allow NANOG to help channel some of ICANN’s incredible excess of funding towards more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far.
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-and-first-sign-memorand...
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-und...
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/gsma-and-icann-sign-memorandu...
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-memorandum-of-und...
I suspect that if you think that this will make it rain, you will be sadly disappointed...
I don’t expect it will do any good at all. I hope that it will be slightly less damaging than the things ICANN usually spends money on.
I had some time on my hands early this morning and did a close reading. There'a typo in Article 3 Section 1. Seems like it was more about the education program than anything. I trust NANOG to be less destructive than ICANN and as near as I can tell,
this partnership is mostly ICANN funding and NANOG doing.
See Article 4. *The Parties agree to use their own funds or financial resources to fulfill their respective responsibilities under this MoU*. This MoU shall not cause any financial obligations on any one of the Parties hereto as a result of enforcing any of its rights or executing any of its obligations hereunder. It's a nice letter from ICANN supporting the education program for the most part. Warm regards, -M<
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