I think this is more of an initial offering; at this speed there have to be problems with dispersion over longer distances, this would need to be solved as well as other issues before longer distances would be permissible; plus I don't know of any regen/amplifier equipment that would handle this that is on the market yet (I may be wrong). There is also the need of OC-768 speeds; I don't think the need quite there yet (Even with the nice demonstration that Cisco gave during the Web cast); OC-48 and OC-192s are still the leaders for this. Chris Burton Network Engineer Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact Walt Disney Internet Group at 206-664-4000. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:30 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Cisco HFR Interestingly the OC-768 card has a max transmit power of 5dB and is short-range optics only. As far as I know there are no 2R or 3R regeneration solutions for long haul 40Gb/s circuits, nor are there any DWDM systems that can do 8, 16 or 32 40Gb/s wavelengths. Burton, Chris wrote:

According to what the site says and from what I have heard they are talking about a $450,000-$500,000 base price for the single shelf unit

and the OC768 Cards will probably be quite expensive until one of the other companies (Juniper or Avici) comes out with something competitive.

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-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Michel Py Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:23 AM To: Eric Kuhnke; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Cisco HFR

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Eric Kuhnke Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html

It's a BFR allright. I wonder how much OC-768 linecards will go for; if it's consistent with 2OC192/POS-IR-SC some will be over a million list a pop. And you thought 12816 gear was pricey?

Michel.