|> From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com] |> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:51 PM |> |> the point of 2xDS3 was specifically to get major services, |> and not to get |> every basement dual-homer. do the latter and you have the |> same grazing |> of the commons as we have today. Considering the cost of a DS1, in California anyways, I might disagree with you. DS1 is steep enough, DS3's are much too steep and sounds much too anti-competitive. Randy, you also know the rates the rest of the planet pays for E1's and E2's, if they can even get anything that fast. If you want a speed-bump then don't build a speed-farging-mountain. What you are saying is that businesses that can't afford the monthlies of a pair of DS3's aren't allowed to be in business? Is that an official position? How would you like it if you were in that position? Can I quote you on that?
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 08:33:16PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
Considering the cost of a DS1, in California anyways, I might disagree with you. DS1 is steep enough, DS3's are much too steep and sounds much too anti-competitive. Randy, you also know the rates the rest of the planet pays for E1's and E2's, if they can even get anything that fast. If you want a speed-bump then don't build a speed-farging-mountain.
Roeland, what are you talking about? DS1 costs are by far the lowest they have been in years, -particularly- in California. Try living in Michigan or Illinois sometime. Randy's point is that basement resellers of dedicated services in particular are typically reselling to enough people that they have larger address-space needs than a /24 and can qualify for and get their own space. The legitimate use of a microallocation is a small, but highly trafficed service that badly needs to be multihomed -- remember we started this thread with a conversation about eBay and CNN. This is not a small provider catch all. --msa
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:
The legitimate use of a microallocation is a small, but highly trafficed service that badly needs to be multihomed -- remember we started this thread with a conversation about eBay and CNN.
Please define who needs to be multi-homed and who doesn't.
Randy's point is that basement resellers of dedicated services in particular are typically reselling to enough people that they have larger address-space needs than a /24 and can qualify for and get their own space.
The legitimate use of a microallocation is a small, but highly trafficed service that badly needs to be multihomed -- remember we started this thread with a conversation about eBay and CNN.
This is not a small provider catch all.
bingo!
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