Re: NANOG Security Track: Route Security
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 03:27:49 +0000 Ryan Hamel <Ryan.Hamel@quadranet.com> wrote:
Just like how all the email threads on NANOG are archived, all talks should be archived as well.
Whether to record a session or not is up to the presenter and track coordinator. The security track, originally called the ISP Security BoF started by Barry Greene and Merike Kaeo was in part an outgrowth of the nsp-security community. The nsp-security was a closed, vetted community. In those days, they were not recorded mainly so participants could feel reasonably comfortable sharing amongst each other by having the discussions limited to those there in person. For many years later it was more or less a given that the security track wasn't recorded. However, that position has weakened slightly and I take some of the blame for that. The last two security tracks I led (67/68) were recorded and I think there was at least one before that I asked be recorded, but it ended up not being captured because the meeting coordinators thought I made a mistake. :-) I had taken an informal poll before the first time about this. There were about three people as I recall who preferred them not to be recorded, suggesting they would not go on mic and participate if they were. Maybe during the session another show of hands should be taken to see who wants them recorded or not in the future. John
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 14:01, John Kristoff <jtk@depaul.edu> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 03:27:49 +0000 Ryan Hamel <Ryan.Hamel@quadranet.com> wrote:
Just like how all the email threads on NANOG are archived, all talks should be archived as well.
Whether to record a session or not is up to the presenter and track coordinator.
I would prefer if NANOG would record sessions by default! (And allow presenters to opt-out if they really feel like it.) Other conferences I have had participated to in the past. Had the option of allowing opt-out of being recorded on stage.
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:16 AM Netravnen <netravnen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 14:01, John Kristoff <jtk@depaul.edu> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 03:27:49 +0000 Ryan Hamel <Ryan.Hamel@quadranet.com> wrote:
Just like how all the email threads on NANOG are archived, all talks should be archived as well.
Whether to record a session or not is up to the presenter and track coordinator.
I would prefer if NANOG would record sessions by default! (And allow presenters to opt-out if they really feel like it.)
Other conferences I have had participated to in the past. Had the option of allowing opt-out of being recorded on stage.
This is in fact how it works now at NANOG. As John points out, the decision is left up to the submitter, but almost all talks are webcast and recorded. (Historically, the security track has not been recorded.) Anyone is welcome to submit talks, including tracks, for consideration, and to make this choice as submitter. In this case, the track moderator believes that it's better that the the talk to not be recorded and so we are honoring that request. Aside from the security track and one other submission, the remainder of the 3-day program will be available for viewing and recorded. Regards, Ryan Woolley NANOG PC Chair
Ryan, what does the track moderator have to do with the presenter? All I here is an excuse to do a disservice to fellow members of this community. Do you really want to have future meetings with everyone holding out their phones, cameras, or other recording devices, to spread the wealth of knowledge? That's crazy. Ryan Hamel -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Ryan Woolley Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 11:48 AM To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: NANOG Security Track: Route Security On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:16 AM Netravnen <netravnen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 14:01, John Kristoff <jtk@depaul.edu> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 03:27:49 +0000 Ryan Hamel <Ryan.Hamel@quadranet.com> wrote:
Just like how all the email threads on NANOG are archived, all talks should be archived as well.
Whether to record a session or not is up to the presenter and track coordinator.
I would prefer if NANOG would record sessions by default! (And allow presenters to opt-out if they really feel like it.)
Other conferences I have had participated to in the past. Had the option of allowing opt-out of being recorded on stage.
This is in fact how it works now at NANOG. As John points out, the decision is left up to the submitter, but almost all talks are webcast and recorded. (Historically, the security track has not been recorded.) Anyone is welcome to submit talks, including tracks, for consideration, and to make this choice as submitter. In this case, the track moderator believes that it's better that the the talk to not be recorded and so we are honoring that request. Aside from the security track and one other submission, the remainder of the 3-day program will be available for viewing and recorded. Regards, Ryan Woolley NANOG PC Chair
Perhaps the moderator and the presenters for this track can figure out (off list!) if there is unanimous support to record the session and reconsider. Kind regards, Job
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