Can anyone recommend neutral facilities in both the UK and Australia? Rob
Rob, i'd give a look at www.peeringdb.com as a start. I suspect that a lot of it may depend upon your application and power needs... I'm thinking of personal experiences with DC power needs and space that required the housing of dwdm equipment etc, vs. someone who needs servers, etc... I'm sure there will be no shortage of folks chiming in... I also hear some folks are using ireland instead of the London area, as well as Manchester, etc... Have you considered other nearby countries as well? The dutch and germans do a good job and there are some nice sites in madrid, but to each his own/ ymmv! good luck Peter Cohen On 5/1/06, Robert Sherrard <rob@robsherrard.com> wrote:
Can anyone recommend neutral facilities in both the UK and Australia?
Rob
UL is seeing a large DDOS coming towards a couple of customers of ours. I know that other ISPs have been affected as well. I will let them identify them selves. Anyone have any scoop on this? Tim -- 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA // POTS: +1 415 665 3790 GPG Fingerprint: 4821 CFDA 06E7 49F3 BF05 3F02 11E3 390F 8338 5B04 Life is playful - Ben Olizar
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:40:43PM -0700, Tim Pozar wrote:
UL is seeing a large DDOS coming towards a couple of customers of ours. I know that other ISPs have been affected as well. I will let them identify them selves.
Anyone have any scoop on this?
A) I don't think anyone knows who UL is by that reference alone (I assume you mean united layer). B) The DoS target is Livejournal. C) As an upstream of an upstream of LJ I'm barely seeing 150Mbps or so of it. No indications of exactly how big it is by the time it hits them, but at least from my perspective it doesn't seem like a huge attack. Hope it stops soon though, a sustained livejournal outage is probably grounds for at least 4-5 suicides by distraught teenagers who can't blog about their day. :) -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:40:43PM -0700, Tim Pozar wrote:
UL is seeing a large DDOS coming towards a couple of customers of ours. I know that other ISPs have been affected as well. I will let them identify them selves.
Anyone have any scoop on this?
A) I don't think anyone knows who UL is by that reference alone (I assume you mean united layer).
B) The DoS target is Livejournal.
C) As an upstream of an upstream of LJ I'm barely seeing 150Mbps or so of it. No indications of exactly how big it is by the time it hits them, but at least from my perspective it doesn't seem like a huge attack.
Hope it stops soon though, a sustained livejournal outage is probably grounds for at least 4-5 suicides by distraught teenagers who can't blog about their day. :)
Ya... I have been chatting with the folks at SixApart about this. This is one of the folks attacked. It looks like there may have been others. Tim -- 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA // POTS: +1 415 665 3790 GPG Fingerprint: 4821 CFDA 06E7 49F3 BF05 3F02 11E3 390F 8338 5B04 Life is playful - Ben Olizar
At 10:11 PM 5/2/2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:40:43PM -0700, Tim Pozar wrote:
UL is seeing a large DDOS coming towards a couple of customers of ours. I know that other ISPs have been affected as well. I will let them identify them selves.
Anyone have any scoop on this?
A) I don't think anyone knows who UL is by that reference alone (I assume you mean united layer).
B) The DoS target is Livejournal.
C) As an upstream of an upstream of LJ I'm barely seeing 150Mbps or so of it. No indications of exactly how big it is by the time it hits them, but at least from my perspective it doesn't seem like a huge attack.
Hope it stops soon though, a sustained livejournal outage is probably grounds for at least 4-5 suicides by distraught teenagers who can't blog about their day. :)
Add in the Blue Security DDOS. NSP-SEC must be busy defending DDoS'ers tonight keeping them from helping people defend LiveJournal. Uh. Who let the Frog out? http://www.wired.com/news/technology/internet/0,70798-0.html?tw=rss.technolo... -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 Member of Technical Staff Network Operations hannigan@renesys.com
Martin Hannigan wrote:
At 10:11 PM 5/2/2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:40:43PM -0700, Tim Pozar wrote:
UL is seeing a large DDOS coming towards a couple of customers of ours. I know that other ISPs have been affected as well. I will let them identify them selves.
Anyone have any scoop on this?
A) I don't think anyone knows who UL is by that reference alone (I assume you mean united layer).
B) The DoS target is Livejournal.
C) As an upstream of an upstream of LJ I'm barely seeing 150Mbps or so of it. No indications of exactly how big it is by the time it hits them, but at least from my perspective it doesn't seem like a huge attack.
Hope it stops soon though, a sustained livejournal outage is probably grounds for at least 4-5 suicides by distraught teenagers who can't blog about their day. :)
Add in the Blue Security DDOS. NSP-SEC must be busy defending DDoS'ers tonight keeping them from helping people defend LiveJournal.
Uh. Who let the Frog out?
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/internet/0,70798-0.html?tw=rss.technolo...
Blue Security's solution to their DOS was to point their www to their Typepad-hosted blog. apogee:/home/pedro> host www.bluesecurity.com www.bluesecurity.com is a nickname for bluesecurity.blogs.com bluesecurity.blogs.com has address 204.9.178.61 apogee:/home/pedro> whois -h whois.arin.net 204.9.178.61 OrgName: SIX APART LTD OrgID: SAL-48 [...] How's that for honorable comportment. We're getting slammed so we're gonna make it someone else's problem(and not give them a heads up). -- Peter Wohlers
At 11:52 AM 5/3/2006, Peter Wohlers wrote:
Martin Hannigan wrote:
At 10:11 PM 5/2/2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:40:43PM -0700, Tim Pozar wrote:
UL is seeing a large DDOS coming towards a couple of customers of ours. I know that other ISPs have been affected as well. I will let them identify them selves.
Anyone have any scoop on this?
A) I don't think anyone knows who UL is by that reference alone (I assume you mean united layer).
B) The DoS target is Livejournal.
C) As an upstream of an upstream of LJ I'm barely seeing 150Mbps or so of it. No indications of exactly how big it is by the time it hits them, but at least from my perspective it doesn't seem like a huge attack.
Hope it stops soon though, a sustained livejournal outage is probably grounds for at least 4-5 suicides by distraught teenagers who can't blog about their day. :)
Add in the Blue Security DDOS. NSP-SEC must be busy defending DDoS'ers tonight keeping them from helping people defend LiveJournal.
Uh. Who let the Frog out?
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/internet/0,70798-0.html?tw=rss.technolo...
Blue Security's solution to their DOS was to point their www to their Typepad-hosted blog.
apogee:/home/pedro> host www.bluesecurity.com www.bluesecurity.com is a nickname for bluesecurity.blogs.com bluesecurity.blogs.com has address 204.9.178.61 apogee:/home/pedro> whois -h whois.arin.net 204.9.178.61
OrgName: SIX APART LTD OrgID: SAL-48 [...]
How's that for honorable comportment. We're getting slammed so we're gonna make it someone else's problem(and not give them a heads up).
Like Lycos MLNS, I predict we'll see random infrastructure obfuscation, route changes, hardware moves, etc. and ultimately the end of BS. If not today, perhaps soon. It's interesting to watch the equivalent of the battle of Omaha Beach between two sets of miscreants, one legitimized by some on nsp-sec, and one legitimized by a commercial DDoS service. -M<
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