RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
Just because it is from Iraq; does NOT mean by any streach of the imagination that OP is a terrorist! You need to get outside the box you are living in and learn to separate the forest from the trees! You are "entitled" to you private-opinions. Don't post said-garbage on NANOG! I do take exception to such garbage; while other's might not. ./Randy --- On Sun, 11/25/12, Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header To: "'Randy'" <randy_94108@yahoo.com> Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 6:43 PM The email address is from… auis.edu.iq = Iraq
Sometimes persons living inside the box cannot see the forest because of the trees.
PEACE
Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!!
A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.
-----Original Message----- From: Randy [mailto:randy_94108@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:52 PM To: Network IPdog Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
WHAT???
Is this the extent to which This-List has DEGENERATED???
How dare you make such a horrendous accusation Sir?
You may NOT like what OP has proposed. I don't either for more reasons than one!
However, YOU are neither qualified NOR authorised to ask such an appallingly INSENSITIVE Question!
Your so called "Freedom-of-Speech" DOES NOT translate to Character-Assasination on this or any other forum!!
Follow me you ipdog? Find you own bitch to abuse. Don't do it here!!
./Randy
--- On Sun, 11/25/12, Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header To: "'John Adams'" <jna@retina.net>, "'Ammar Salih'" <ammar.salih@auis.edu.iq> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 3:16 PM Et al,
There is one simple question that needs to be asked!
Ammar Salih @ ammar.salih@auis.edu.iq Are you a terrorist?
Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!!
A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.
-----Original Message----- From: John Adams [mailto:jna@retina.net] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:20 PM To: Ammar Salih Cc: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
Your proposal doesn't even give people a way to encrypt their location data; By moving geodata to a portion of the protocol which is not covered by commonly used encryption methods (i.e. HTTPS, which is up a few layers in the stack) people can't be protected should this data be monitored by a malicious intermediary. Think: Syria, China, Iran, or any other government which will kill you for your words online.
Application protocols sending GPS data under say, HTTPS protect the end user from revealing their location to anyone on their path, forcing an intermediary to look up the IP in a common geo database which will be mostly inaccurate in pinpointing users, and hopefully will save lives.
Companies like Twitter, Facebook, and some parts of google are going HTTPS by default for this very reason.
This proposal is dead, you don't have the sense to lie down.
I agree, this is entirely unacceptable discourse for nanog. Maybe you should take a closer look at your Ephesians quote there, Mister 'IPdog.' -chris ________________________________________ From: Randy [randy_94108@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 20:28 To: Network IPdog Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Just because it is from Iraq; does NOT mean by any streach of the imagination that OP is a terrorist! You need to get outside the box you are living in and learn to separate the forest from the trees! You are "entitled" to you private-opinions. Don't post said-garbage on NANOG! I do take exception to such garbage; while other's might not. ./Randy --- On Sun, 11/25/12, Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header To: "'Randy'" <randy_94108@yahoo.com> Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 6:43 PM The email address is from… auis.edu.iq = Iraq
Sometimes persons living inside the box cannot see the forest because of the trees.
PEACE
Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!!
A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.
-----Original Message----- From: Randy [mailto:randy_94108@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:52 PM To: Network IPdog Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
WHAT???
Is this the extent to which This-List has DEGENERATED???
How dare you make such a horrendous accusation Sir?
You may NOT like what OP has proposed. I don't either for more reasons than one!
However, YOU are neither qualified NOR authorised to ask such an appallingly INSENSITIVE Question!
Your so called "Freedom-of-Speech" DOES NOT translate to Character-Assasination on this or any other forum!!
Follow me you ipdog? Find you own bitch to abuse. Don't do it here!!
./Randy
--- On Sun, 11/25/12, Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header To: "'John Adams'" <jna@retina.net>, "'Ammar Salih'" <ammar.salih@auis.edu.iq> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 3:16 PM Et al,
There is one simple question that needs to be asked!
Ammar Salih @ ammar.salih@auis.edu.iq Are you a terrorist?
Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!!
A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.
-----Original Message----- From: John Adams [mailto:jna@retina.net] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:20 PM To: Ammar Salih Cc: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
Your proposal doesn't even give people a way to encrypt their location data; By moving geodata to a portion of the protocol which is not covered by commonly used encryption methods (i.e. HTTPS, which is up a few layers in the stack) people can't be protected should this data be monitored by a malicious intermediary. Think: Syria, China, Iran, or any other government which will kill you for your words online.
Application protocols sending GPS data under say, HTTPS protect the end user from revealing their location to anyone on their path, forcing an intermediary to look up the IP in a common geo database which will be mostly inaccurate in pinpointing users, and hopefully will save lives.
Companies like Twitter, Facebook, and some parts of google are going HTTPS by default for this very reason.
This proposal is dead, you don't have the sense to lie down.
Please don't feed the bigoted hypocritical trolls. Regards, -drc On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Randy <randy_94108@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just because it is from Iraq; does NOT mean by any streach of the imagination that OP is a terrorist! You need to get outside the box you are living in and learn to separate the forest from the trees!
You are "entitled" to you private-opinions. Don't post said-garbage on NANOG!
I do take exception to such garbage; while other's might not.
./Randy
--- On Sun, 11/25/12, Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header To: "'Randy'" <randy_94108@yahoo.com> Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 6:43 PM The email address is from… auis.edu.iq = Iraq
Sometimes persons living inside the box cannot see the forest because of the trees.
PEACE
Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!!
A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.
-----Original Message----- From: Randy [mailto:randy_94108@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:52 PM To: Network IPdog Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
WHAT???
Is this the extent to which This-List has DEGENERATED???
How dare you make such a horrendous accusation Sir?
You may NOT like what OP has proposed. I don't either for more reasons than one!
However, YOU are neither qualified NOR authorised to ask such an appallingly INSENSITIVE Question!
Your so called "Freedom-of-Speech" DOES NOT translate to Character-Assasination on this or any other forum!!
Follow me you ipdog? Find you own bitch to abuse. Don't do it here!!
./Randy
--- On Sun, 11/25/12, Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Network IPdog <network.ipdog@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header To: "'John Adams'" <jna@retina.net>, "'Ammar Salih'" <ammar.salih@auis.edu.iq> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 3:16 PM Et al,
There is one simple question that needs to be asked!
Ammar Salih @ ammar.salih@auis.edu.iq Are you a terrorist?
Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!!
A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it.
-----Original Message----- From: John Adams [mailto:jna@retina.net] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:20 PM To: Ammar Salih Cc: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
Your proposal doesn't even give people a way to encrypt their location data; By moving geodata to a portion of the protocol which is not covered by commonly used encryption methods (i.e. HTTPS, which is up a few layers in the stack) people can't be protected should this data be monitored by a malicious intermediary. Think: Syria, China, Iran, or any other government which will kill you for your words online.
Application protocols sending GPS data under say, HTTPS protect the end user from revealing their location to anyone on their path, forcing an intermediary to look up the IP in a common geo database which will be mostly inaccurate in pinpointing users, and hopefully will save lives.
Companies like Twitter, Facebook, and some parts of google are going HTTPS by default for this very reason.
This proposal is dead, you don't have the sense to lie down.
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