The biggest issue has always been timing. We've caught ourselves a few times with 5 IP addresses left and had to wait to sign new customers up for a while until ARIN got back to us. Luckily, stiring up the pool of IP's usually gets a dozen or so to drop out that we missed as being available. Joe Johnson JMDN.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:25 PM To: Philip Lavine Cc: nanog Subject: Re: I want my own IPs On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Philip Lavine wrote: > I have recently been turned down by ARIN for an > address block. I currently have 4 /24's from ISP's and > would like IP independence. How do I convince ARIN to > give me a block -- /20 I guess? It's not a matter of convincing, it's a matter of demonstrating need. If you're actually _using_ the four /24s, you can demonstrate a need for a /22 today. So a good first step would be to use the four /24s until they're full. Second step would be to apply to ARIN for a /22 to replace them. Renumber into that. Then keep applying to ARIN for more space as you need it. -Bill
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Joe Johnson wrote: Learning the ins and outs of RWHOIS also tends to help, as it's a lot easier to set up in short notice than doing SWIP (and a bit easier to tie to a backend once you get the file formats nailed down). -Dan
The biggest issue has always been timing. We've caught ourselves a few times with 5 IP addresses left and had to wait to sign new customers up for a while until ARIN got back to us. Luckily, stiring up the pool of IP's usually gets a dozen or so to drop out that we missed as being available.
Joe Johnson JMDN.net
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:25 PM To: Philip Lavine Cc: nanog Subject: Re: I want my own IPs
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Philip Lavine wrote:
I have recently been turned down by ARIN for an address block. I currently have 4 /24's from ISP's and would like IP independence. How do I convince ARIN to give me a block -- /20 I guess?
It's not a matter of convincing, it's a matter of demonstrating need.
If you're actually _using_ the four /24s, you can demonstrate a need for a /22 today. So a good first step would be to use the four /24s until they're full. Second step would be to apply to ARIN for a /22 to replace them. Renumber into that. Then keep applying to ARIN for more space as you need it.
-Bill
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