Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:34:46PM +0000, Maarten Van Horenbeeck wrote:
Hi Frank,
Dag Maarten,
stuid question, but isn't 2004010101 (today) > 1076370400 (9 Feb 2004)?
This doesn't apply here. It is perfectly possible to decrease the value of your serial number without any consequences for the DNS slave/master zone transfers, if you adhere to the procedures put forward in RFC 1912 (section 3.1). The fact that the newly introduced serial is lower will thus not have any consequences from this perspective.
Yes, but we all know there are quite some non-compliant dns-servers out there. Do they want to break the largest zone for a few days for all non-compliant servers? Oh, wait, right, they don't care if they break stuff... Kind Regards, Frank Louwers -- Openminds bvba www.openminds.be Tweebruggenstraat 16 - 9000 Gent - Belgium
stuid question, but isn't 2004010101 (today) > 1076370400 (9 Feb 2004)?
This doesn't apply here. It is perfectly possible to decrease the value of your serial number without any consequences for the DNS slave/master zone transfers, if you adhere to the procedures put forward in RFC 1912 (section 3.1). The fact that the newly introduced serial is lower will thus not have any consequences from this perspective.
Yes, but we all know there are quite some non-compliant dns-servers out there. Do they want to break the largest zone for a few days for all non-compliant servers?
Oh, wait, right, they don't care if they break stuff...
And all this matters because.. ? The serial number is used by the slaves, everyone else (ISPs) are only interested in the expiry which is 1 week. Verisign can force all the slaves to reload the zone and hence eliminate the old format instantly. Afaik all subdomains of the gtlds have their own SOAs so it wont affect any of those and if you're running a stealth slave well this is your notification! Steve
Frank Louwers wrote:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:34:46PM +0000, Maarten Van Horenbeeck wrote:
Hi Frank,
Dag Maarten,
stuid question, but isn't 2004010101 (today) > 1076370400 (9 Feb 2004)?
This doesn't apply here. It is perfectly possible to decrease the value of your serial number without any consequences for the DNS slave/master zone transfers, if you adhere to the procedures put forward in RFC 1912 (section 3.1). The fact that the newly introduced serial is lower will thus not have any consequences from this perspective.
Yes, but we all know there are quite some non-compliant dns-servers out there. Do they want to break the largest zone for a few days for all non-compliant servers?
Oh, wait, right, they don't care if they break stuff...
Since I am currently unemployed I guess it is only as they say of academic interest to me, but I don't see why it doesn't break it, and for functionally all of time.
If they do this change, theyll break a tremendows number of systems around. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Louwers" <frank@openminds.be> To: "Maarten Van Horenbeeck" <maarten@daemon.be> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:34:46PM +0000, Maarten Van Horenbeeck wrote:
Hi Frank,
Dag Maarten,
stuid question, but isn't 2004010101 (today) > 1076370400 (9 Feb
2004)?
This doesn't apply here. It is perfectly possible to decrease the value of your serial number without any consequences for the DNS slave/master zone transfers, if you adhere to the procedures put forward in RFC 1912 (section 3.1). The fact that the newly introduced serial is lower will thus not have any consequences from this perspective.
Yes, but we all know there are quite some non-compliant dns-servers out there. Do they want to break the largest zone for a few days for all non-compliant servers?
Oh, wait, right, they don't care if they break stuff...
Kind Regards, Frank Louwers
-- Openminds bvba www.openminds.be Tweebruggenstraat 16 - 9000 Gent - Belgium
Alexei Roudnev writes on 1/8/2004 2:00 AM:
If they do this change, theyll break a tremendows number of systems around.
Like, for example? -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
I think, I should agree with Vixie - while all .com and .net servers are controlled by Verisign, and no other servers xfer this zones, the only thing which can break is some script which use SOA to determine, if 'com' was changed (which is unlikely case - I can not image any use for such script). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh@outblaze.com> To: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net> Cc: "Frank Louwers" <frank@openminds.be>; "Maarten Van Horenbeeck" <maarten@daemon.be>; <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Upcoming change to SOA values in .com and .net zones
Alexei Roudnev writes on 1/8/2004 2:00 AM:
If they do this change, theyll break a tremendows number of systems around.
Like, for example?
-- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
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