Unsolicited LinkedIn requests
Hi folks, I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!" I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before. Please don't do this: It's not very polite. ~A
Sorry that’s me! Often times people post on linked in and I wanted to have it show up in my newsfeed If this isn't allowed let me know and sorry for that! -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Alfie Pates Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:08 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Unsolicited LinkedIn requests Hi folks, I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!" I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before. Please don't do this: It's not very polite. ~A - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The information contained in this electronic message may be confidential, and the message is for the use of intended recipients only. If you are not the intended recipient, do not disseminate, copy, or disclose this communication or its contents. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify me by replying to the email or call MIS Alliance at 617-500-1700 and permanently delete this communication.
That's really lame. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 4:10 PM Alfie Pates <alfie@fdx.services> wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!"
I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before.
Please don't do this: It's not very polite.
~A
If you don’t want people contacting you on Linkedin then why do you have a link to your profile on your website? at 4:08 PM, Alfie Pates <alfie@fdx.services> wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!"
I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before.
Please don't do this: It's not very polite.
~A
Well said... But I can't see that on his website... M. OMER GOLGELI --- AS202365 On 2018-12-12 00:39, Daniel Corbe wrote:
If you don’t want people contacting you on Linkedin then why do you have a link to your profile on your website?
at 4:08 PM, Alfie Pates <alfie@fdx.services> wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!"
I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before.
Please don't do this: It's not very polite.
~A
not sure he was complaining about the request, just that it provided no context or reason why they should link. a personal pet peeve of mine. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:50 AM M. Omer GOLGELI <omer@chronos.com.tr> wrote:
Well said...
But I can't see that on his website...
M. OMER GOLGELI --- AS202365
On 2018-12-12 00:39, Daniel Corbe wrote:
If you don’t want people contacting you on Linkedin then why do you have a link to your profile on your website?
at 4:08 PM, Alfie Pates <alfie@fdx.services> wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!"
I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before.
Please don't do this: It's not very polite.
~A
-- Kailua, Hawaiʻi US +1 (808) 728-3050 UK +44 (020) 3286 2808
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018, David Cornejo wrote:
not sure he was complaining about the request, just that it provided no context or reason why they should link. a personal pet peeve of mine.
Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often. Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts. Those end up in the bitbucket. It is annoying, but an unfortunate reality these days... Thank you jms
In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.1812111157380.6800@whammy.cluebyfour.org> you write:
Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often. Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts. Those end up in the bitbucket.
When you turn down a connection there should be "I don't know this person" which demotes them somehow. I gather that with enough of those, you can't do invites any more.
Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often. Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts. Those end up in the bitbucket.
When you turn down a connection there should be "I don't know this person" which demotes them somehow. I gather that with enough of those, you can't do invites any more.
Permanent Solution: Get rid of LinkedIn (whatever the hillbilly a Linkedin is) --- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On 12/11/2018 03:55 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
Permanent Solution: Get rid of LinkedIn (whatever the hillbilly a Linkedin is)
I initially created my LinkedIn profile specifically to say I want zero invitations. At the time there was no other way to make LinkedIn /not/ send the invitations. Well, no way that LinkedIn provided. Email filters are a wonderful thing. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
at 5:40 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.1812111157380.6800@whammy.cluebyfour.org> you write:
Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often. Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts. Those end up in the bitbucket.
When you turn down a connection there should be "I don't know this person" which demotes them somehow. I gather that with enough of those, you can't do invites any more.
This was the case back when LinkedIn were actively enforcing their TOS. LinkedIn was largely started as and designed to be a referral service. As far as I can tell though, they’ve been letting strangers freely connect with one another for years now. -Daniel
at 5:40 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.1812111157380.6800@whammy.cluebyfour.org> you write:
Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often. Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts. Those end up in the bitbucket.
When you turn down a connection there should be "I don't know this person" which demotes them somehow. I gather that with enough of those, you can't do invites any more.
This was the case back when LinkedIn were actively enforcing their TOS. LinkedIn was largely started as and designed to be a referral service. As far as I can tell though, theyâve been letting strangers freely connect with one another for years now.
I've seen success with the 'I don't know this person' feedback system as well, and encourage it's use. Unfortunately for LinkedIn there's a whole breed of L.I.O.N. (LinkedIn Open Networker) folks who believe in extending their social circle first and breeding connections from there. Somewhat akin to Twitter users who blindly follow everyone they come across, mainly in the hope of a reciprocal follow and not because they have any intent to interact with the person they're following, or even ever read their timeline. It's exposure, exposure, exposure. Mark.
And for one that SPAM message that was sent to you on LI, now you've made a bunch of SPAM for all the NANOG folks to read through. Thanks for that... -Mike On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:21 PM Mark Foster <blakjak@blakjak.net> wrote:
at 5:40 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.1812111157380.6800@whammy.cluebyfour.org> you write:
Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often. Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts. Those end up in the bitbucket.
When you turn down a connection there should be "I don't know this person" which demotes them somehow. I gather that with enough of those, you can't do invites any more.
This was the case back when LinkedIn were actively enforcing their TOS. LinkedIn was largely started as and designed to be a referral service. As far as I can tell though, they’ve been letting strangers freely connect with one another for years now.
I've seen success with the 'I don't know this person' feedback system as well, and encourage it's use.
Unfortunately for LinkedIn there's a whole breed of L.I.O.N. (LinkedIn Open Networker) folks who believe in extending their social circle first and breeding connections from there.
Somewhat akin to Twitter users who blindly follow everyone they come across, mainly in the hope of a reciprocal follow and not because they have any intent to interact with the person they're following, or even ever read their timeline. It's exposure, exposure, exposure.
Mark.
-- Mike Lyon mike.lyon@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
While I agree that some of the replies to the original message were not entirely necessary, I would not go so far as to consider them "spam". In any conversation, sometimes people say things you are not interested in hearing. Being a member of a mailing list is like being a part of many conversations at once - some of them will be interesting, some will not, and some will be a mix of both. I don't think it's productive to complain that you are getting messages you don't want. We all are. That's just how it is. I would recommend using sorting rules in your mail client of choice to put NANOG emails into a dedicated folder. It makes it easier to sort out the noise. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 9:26 PM Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
And for one that SPAM message that was sent to you on LI, now you've made a bunch of SPAM for all the NANOG folks to read through.
Thanks for that...
-Mike
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:21 PM Mark Foster <blakjak@blakjak.net> wrote:
at 5:40 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.1812111157380.6800@whammy.cluebyfour.org> you write:
Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often. Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts. Those end up in the bitbucket.
When you turn down a connection there should be "I don't know this person" which demotes them somehow. I gather that with enough of those, you can't do invites any more.
This was the case back when LinkedIn were actively enforcing their TOS. LinkedIn was largely started as and designed to be a referral service. As far as I can tell though, they’ve been letting strangers freely connect with one another for years now.
I've seen success with the 'I don't know this person' feedback system as well, and encourage it's use.
Unfortunately for LinkedIn there's a whole breed of L.I.O.N. (LinkedIn Open Networker) folks who believe in extending their social circle first and breeding connections from there.
Somewhat akin to Twitter users who blindly follow everyone they come across, mainly in the hope of a reciprocal follow and not because they have any intent to interact with the person they're following, or even ever read their timeline. It's exposure, exposure, exposure.
Mark.
-- Mike Lyon mike.lyon@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
I see folk giving quite a bit of time and attention to this. By now, I know that 98% of Linkedin messages hitting my mail box are for connections from people I don't know. It's faster and simpler for me to delete the message and move on. A few times a month I'll get a digest of reminders for connections I haven't acted upon. Again, delete the e-mail and move on - I'm not obsessed with having "0 items to action". 2% of the time, I'll receive a request to connect from someone I know or someone I've met before, or a message that is actually useful which someone sent via Linkedin. After sometime, you achieve muscle memory as to what to catch and what to ignore, i.e., the 98% vs. the 2%. No point in trying to be more creative than that, if I'm honest. Linkedin and all other social media apps are so entrenched in our online lives, it's as guaranteed as catching a cold at some point every year. Mark.
I got the same invite. Sharing your profile in order to make certain information available to potential customers, vendors, partners etc, is not an invitation to connect on the basis of a tenuous-at-best professional tie-in. I'm firmly in the camp of 'Use LinkedIn to remain connected with people that I know or have done business with', and unsolicited invitations from people I don't know are almost universally ignored and/or blocked... It also tends to flavour my thinking if i'm later in the market for services similar to those offered by someone who's tried it on in this manner in the past. Amazingly I had a sales-type engage with me via InMail just recently, defending his cold sales approach (spam, basically) when I tried to do the polite thing and explain why what he was doing was 'bad'. Mark.
If you donât want people contacting you on Linkedin then why do you have a link to your profile on your website?
at 4:08 PM, Alfie Pates <alfie@fdx.services> wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!"
I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before.
Please don't do this: It's not very polite.
~A
LinkedIn has a "I don't know this person" option when you decline an invitation. If a user gets too many of those they're kicked, because LinkedIn is explicitly about making cyber connections that you already had IRL. -- Harald
On 12/11/18 1:53 PM, Mark Foster wrote:
Amazingly I had a sales-type engage with me via InMail just recently, defending his cold sales approach (spam, basically) when I tried to do the polite thing and explain why what he was doing was 'bad'.
Mark.
when on the third un-replied to email asking for a meeting i told one of these sales droids that i had no interest in receiving spam and didn't he get the hint when i didn't reply twice he said "i'm just trying to help". (i said, at least be honest about it. you're trying to sell me your stuff and mostly help yourself. and complained to linked in about it -- they have a report-spam-or-scam link. i have no idea what they do with it.)
LinkedIn has been spamming since they started. I've got samples sent to me, to mailing lists, to role accounts, to never-existed addresses, to spamtraps, to all kinds of places. My recommendation remains to permanently blacklist them in every mail system you have authority over. ---rsk
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