*> 2.52.228.144/32 209.83.160.97 0 6347 1239 i Wee? not to be superstitious, but doesn't sprint own the mirror image of the about (144.228.x.x)? 1 nac-chq1-e0-0 (209.123.20.251) 6.556 ms 4.507 ms 4.913 ms 2 nac-nyc6-s3-2 (209.123.11.222) 208.609 ms 46.004 ms 52.967 ms 3 nac-brd1-h0 (209.123.11.190) 21.686 ms 7.134 ms 8.227 ms 4 GA0F8B.GR-1.NycmNY.savvis.net (209.83.160.97) 38.873 ms 21.764 ms 28.229 ms 5 sl-gw12-pen-10-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.165.13) 19.487 ms 69.539 ms 63.810 ms 6 sl-bb10-pen-2-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.85) 19.669 ms 14.627 ms 20.308 ms 7 sl-bb7-pen-0-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.54) 19.116 ms 28.941 ms 54.179 ms 8 sl-bb5-chi-1-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.38) 93.912 ms 43.670 ms 54.402 ms 9 sl-bb12-chi-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.0.169) 41.690 ms 30.253 ms 108.610 ms 10 sl-bb2-chi-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.0.142) 60.862 ms 52.579 ms 38.913 ms 11 144.228.252.11 (144.228.252.11) 45.391 ms 50.220 ms 85.955 ms 12 sl-paterno-2-0-128k.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.2) 167.325 ms 55.033 ms 76.683 ms 13 sl-gw11-chi-9-1-TS5-128k.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.1) 70.834 ms 123.828 ms 77.876 ms 14 sl-paterno-2-0-128k.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.2) 58.633 ms 57.476 ms 61.027 ms 15 sl-gw11-chi-9-1-TS5-128k.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.1) 59.639 ms 53.384 ms 49.821 ms -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs. October 26-28, 1998, Atlanta, GA. Three days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. http://www.ispf.com/ for information and registration. Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex@nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
yea i sent them mail about that a week or two ago.. it does seem odd that its exactly reverse of a block of theirs ;) I've not heard a word back from them. Netname: SPRINTLINK Netnumber: 144.228.0.0 On Thu, Sep 17, 1998 at 05:37:35PM -0400, alex@nac.net wrote:
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-- Steven O. Noble -- Sr. Backbone Engineer, Exodus Communications (EXDS) -- Work:408.346.2333 -- All my love to the Canadian Mooing Frog.
How irresponsible can you get? Advertising bogus routes, not taking any action about it when notified, obviously not having even the most minimal filters in place to prevent such things. Doesn't give me much confidence in the stability of their network or in their protections against accidental (either clueless or oops) or deliberate bogosity. Obviously, this particular instance is of little real consequence and is trivial for clueful providers to filter, but it is symptomatic of a system that may well have bigger holes large enough to drive the Titanic through as it sinks. It would be interesting to do a survey to see just how many backbone providers you can convince to advertise a really dumb route, a route for a block you don't own and is obviously in use elsewhere, etc. If this is what we see from a major backbone, what should we expect from Joe's ISP and Steak House in Mudfest Wyoming? It seems that no progress has been made, in North America as a whole, since previous incidents. Not only is it an exact reverse of one of their blocks, but it is (logically) routed there. If you trace from a silly network that doesn't filter the announcement: 6 sl-bb11-sea-2-1.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.21) 3.612 ms 3.437 ms 3.921 ms 7 sl-bb2-sea-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.30) 4.067 ms 4.427 ms 4.642 ms 8 sl-bb5-chi-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.62) 43.526 ms 43.728 ms 43.595 ms 9 sl-bb11-chi-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.0.173) 43.276 ms 42.518 ms 43.166 ms 10 sl-bb4-chi-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.0.166) 43.811 ms 43.082 ms 44.367 ms 11 144.228.252.11 (144.228.252.11) 67.481 ms 67.477 ms 69.302 ms 12 sl-paterno-2-0-128k.sprintlink.net (144.228.52.2) 76.157 ms 76.420 ms 74.786 ms On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 steve@altrina.exodus.net wrote:
yea i sent them mail about that a week or two ago.. it does seem odd that its exactly reverse of a block of theirs ;) I've not heard a word back from them.
Netname: SPRINTLINK Netnumber: 144.228.0.0
On Thu, Sep 17, 1998 at 05:37:35PM -0400, alex@nac.net wrote:
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