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Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. --srs ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:50:25 AM To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Vint Cerf & Interplanetary Internet https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s... Roderick Beck VP of Business Development United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com<http://www.unitedcablecompany.com> New York City & Budapest rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183 [1467221477350_image005.png]
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s...
On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. ---------------------------------------------------------------- More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... (Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!) Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft. Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system like comets/asteroids: https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317 Or... <insert something I haven't though of here> The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one! scott
It wouldn’t be NANOG. Perhaps LUNOG or MOONOG.
On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:07, scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s...
On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. ----------------------------------------------------------------
More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... (Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!)
Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft.
Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system like comets/asteroids: https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317
Or... <insert something I haven't though of here>
The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet
The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one!
scott
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
the subgroup for networks on aspherical planetoids would be EGGNOG -- we only meet during the holiays On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:59 PM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
It wouldn’t be NANOG. Perhaps LUNOG or MOONOG.
On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:07, scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s... ----------------------------------------------------------------
On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. ----------------------------------------------------------------
More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon:
(Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!)
Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft.
Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... like
comets/asteroids: https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317
Or... <insert something I haven't though of here>
The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet
The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one!
scott
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
Perfect. Where do I sign up? --srs ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of C. A. Fillekes <cfillekes@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 12:53 PM To: Mark Andrews Cc: NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Vint Cerf & Interplanetary Internet the subgroup for networks on aspherical planetoids would be EGGNOG -- we only meet during the holiays On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:59 PM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org<mailto:marka@isc.org>> wrote: It wouldn’t be NANOG. Perhaps LUNOG or MOONOG.
On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:07, scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com<mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com>> wrote:
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org<mailto:gmail.com@nanog.org>> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>>
https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s...
On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. ----------------------------------------------------------------
More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... (Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!)
Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft.
Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system like comets/asteroids: https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317
Or... <insert something I haven't though of here>
The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet
The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one!
scott
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org<mailto:marka@isc.org>
This will deprecated RFC1149, 2549 and 6214 :( ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-10-22 03:20, C. A. Fillekes wrote:
the subgroup for networks on aspherical planetoids would be EGGNOG -- we only meet during the holiays
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:59 PM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org <mailto:marka@isc.org>> wrote:
It wouldn’t be NANOG. Perhaps LUNOG or MOONOG.
> On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:07, scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com <mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com>> wrote: > > > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org <mailto:gmail.com@nanog.org>> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com <mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>> >> https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s... > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have > interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, > and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a > substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon: > > https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... > (Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!) > > Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other > planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the > Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars > Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft. > > Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system like > comets/asteroids: > https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid > https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317 > > Or... <insert something I haven't though of here> > > The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet > > The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed > the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one! > > scott
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org <mailto:marka@isc.org>
Don't mess with Belters ... On 10/22/20 9:20 AM, C. A. Fillekes wrote:
the subgroup for networks on aspherical planetoids would be EGGNOG -- we only meet during the holiays
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:59 PM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org <mailto:marka@isc.org>> wrote:
It wouldn’t be NANOG. Perhaps LUNOG or MOONOG.
> On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:07, scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com <mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com>> wrote: > > > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org <mailto:gmail.com@nanog.org>> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com <mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>> >> https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s... > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have > interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, > and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a > substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon: > > https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... > (Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!) > > Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other > planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the > Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars > Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft. > > Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system like > comets/asteroids: > https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid > https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317 > > Or... <insert something I haven't though of here> > > The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet > > The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed > the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one! > > scott
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org <mailto:marka@isc.org>
On Oct 22, 2020, at 1:20 AM, C. A. Fillekes <cfillekes@gmail.com> wrote:
the subgroup for networks on aspherical planetoids would be EGGNOG -- we only meet during the holidays
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SPACOG. C'mon guys. Think Big! ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:56 AM To: scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Vint Cerf & Interplanetary Internet It wouldn’t be NANOG. Perhaps LUNOG or MOONOG.
On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:07, scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s...
On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. ----------------------------------------------------------------
More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... (Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!)
Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft.
Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system like comets/asteroids: https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317
Or... <insert something I haven't though of here>
The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet
The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one!
scott
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
NASOG -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Oct 21, 2020, at 22:59, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
It wouldn’t be NANOG. Perhaps LUNOG or MOONOG.
On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:07, scott weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ops.lists=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s...
On 10/21/20 2:27 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Right. This means we are going to catch a spaceship for a future nanog / have interplanetary governance federation debates with space aliens from Andromeda, and we will finally run out of v6 and ipv9 will rule the roost while there’s a substantial aftermarket + hijack scene going on for the last remaining v6 blocks. ----------------------------------------------------------------
More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/20/talking-on-the-moon-nasa-and... (Everyone on the moon will want to have access to LOL cats!)
Or... using DTN (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dtn/about) to reach Mars and other planets by being relayed through communications relay satellites similar to the Mars Telecommunication Orbiter (canceled), Mars Odyssey or Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft.
Or... IP to robots visiting other non-planet objects in the solar system like comets/asteroids: https://spacenews.com/osiris-rex-touches-down-on-asteroid https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47293317
Or... <insert something I haven't though of here>
The IPI idea has been around for a long time now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet
The main question is will NANOG On The Road meet on the moon? I missed the only Hawaii one, so maybe I could make the moon one!
scott
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
In article <9ed99fde-19f1-96cc-1021-3420dc492343@mauigateway.com> you write:
More like IP to Nokia's new cell network on the moon:
Ah, right. There was news about that earlier this week: https://www.theonion.com/nasa-builds-4g-tower-on-moon-tastefully-disguised-a... R's, John
It should be mentioned that the IPN SIG is lately revitalized, had elections, and is actively forming Working Groups. http://ipnsig.org/ On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 7:20 PM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/vint-cerfs-plan-for-building-an-internet-in-s...
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