Susan, I think the NANOG community as a whole is looking for more information to be put out ahead of time regarding this event. The information requested from Alex's post today is what we are most after: Regarding http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0501/coordination.html -- can someone comment on who will from MERIT/NANOG will be present, and what the moderation will be? What is the intended agenda for this meeting? In addition to that: Also, what are the expected outcomes of this meeting? Answers to these questions will help your community best make traveling and scheduling arrangements. Thanks, Chris Malayter TDS Telecom - Network Services Data Network Engineering chris.malayter@tdstelecom.com Phone: (608) 664-4878 FAX: (608) 664-4644 -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harris [mailto:srh@merit.edu] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 3:17 PM To: Joe Provo Cc: nanog@merit.edu; Betty Burke Subject: Re: Agenda so far for NANOG33
Looking at the current agenda, there's a "Special Community Meeting" Sunday evening after the tutorials, but with no details posted. Should we expected any so that attendees flying in can determine if they should skip dinner to make it?
Thanks for the nudge, Joe. There are details here: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0501/coordination.html And what it says is: ------------------- Coordinating NANOG: Input From the Community All Las Vegas meeting attendees are invited to attend this special meeting, where we'll discuss NANOG coordination issues recently raised by the community. Our agenda will include: 1. Merit's role in coordinating NANOG 2. How the Program Committee reviews proposals and selects presentations 3. Community concerns about the NANOG email list. ----------------- Hope everyone can join us!
The information requested from Alex's post today is what we are most after:
Regarding http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0501/coordination.html -- can someone comment on who will from MERIT/NANOG will be present, and what the moderation will be? What is the intended agenda for this meeting?
My boss Betty Burke will represent Merit/NANOG, and members of the NANOG program committee will be on hand as well. We're still in the process of arranging moderators. The main agenda items are: 1. Merit's role in coordinating NANOG 2. How the Program Committee reviews proposals and selects presentations 3. Community concerns about the NANOG email list. Betty will cover the first item, Steve Feldman from the program committee the 2nd, and the moderators the third. (BTW, Betty's been coordinating Merit's holiday move to our newly constructed building, so she may not see your mail for a day or so.)
Also, what are the expected outcomes of this meeting?
We can't predict outcomes until we hear from you folks - that's the goal of the meeting, to hear any and all concerns about moderation of the NANOG list, selection of talks for the meetings, and whatever else is on your mind. We'll then take your input back to Merit and the program committee and suggest some potential solutions.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Susan Harris wrote:
Also, what are the expected outcomes of this meeting?
We can't predict outcomes until we hear from you folks - that's the goal of the meeting, to hear any and all concerns about moderation of the NANOG list, selection of talks for the meetings, and whatever else is on your mind. We'll then take your input back to Merit and the program committee and suggest some potential solutions.
From the dearth of emails sent by the various folks who crawled out of the woodwork with denigrating remarks about what I could reasonably expect with my direct request for moderator comment on ratification of the list's charter, I'd say this last item is the most significant. I am, in fact, still waiting, as many people predicted I would be. I realize I may seem
At the risk of being a caustic agitator, I should imagine the outcomes would include: - A change of moderation policy and practices for the mailing list. - A change of moderators for the mailing list. - A change of venue for the mailing list. - Nothing. At the minimum, one would hope to see: - Periodic reminders of what's on topic and what isn't. - A working warning system for repeat short-term offenders. - Increased visibility into the why's of sanctions applied to productive clueful posters. - Actual responses to direct queries regarding policy and actions. the interloper on this subject, as a read-only non-expert for most of the common discussions, but at the very minimum I would 'reasonably expect' the professional courtesy of a response, even if it had been as minimal as "This can be discussed at the next meeting." I'd rather be blown off with some well placed smoke or sunshine than be made to think I'm null routing my own email. - billn
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