Greg, There are a number of problems with what you have proposed. For one thing, the tinker-factor is too high for production purposes. I have more, but this day is dedicated to BizDev and I can't spare the time right now..
-----Original Message----- From: woods@weird.com [mailto:woods@weird.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:25 AM To: Daniel Senie Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Broken Internet?
[ On Tuesday, March 13, 2001 at 19:54:00 (-0500), Daniel Senie wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Broken Internet?
We can't. The point, though, is that the Internet needs to have a GOOD way to support multihoming. We presently DO NOT have a good mechanism for this. The IPv6 approach to this does not appear workable either.
That's because this is a problem that has never existed, not ever.
Proper *real* multi-homing has *ALWAYS* worked and it's technically an excellent way to achieve redundant connectivity for a "small" network. (other risks related to "all your eggs in one basket" type of physical infrastructure aside, and they can be put aside for many businesses because if the bricks&mortar part is destoryed the business can't survive anyway....)
Given the various simple little tricks I mentioned you don't even need to put multiple interfaces in every server.
-- Greg A. Woods
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[ On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 at 13:37:56 (-0800), Roeland Meyer wrote: ]
Subject: RE: Broken Internet?
There are a number of problems with what you have proposed. For one thing, the tinker-factor is too high for production purposes. I have more, but this day is dedicated to BizDev and I can't spare the time right now..
It works perfectly well in production if you have the appropriate skill set, and even an amateur could make it work for 1 or 2 hosts at a really small site. If you think that the average "Joe" off the street can't make it work then you're absolutely right. They don't usually let those kind of people fly commercial jets either, yet there are more of them in the air at any one time around the world than either you or I can reliably count. So productise it then. Otherwise there's no excuse. (Even if all the world were to upgrade their BGP routers to handle a reasonable number of routes (say 500,000, though ~2^20 would be ideal), then we would still have this problem because not everyone can justify even a /24, and we'd also start out with a severe shortage of people skilled in running BGP too! ;-) -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <gwoods@acm.org> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <woods@planix.com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods@weird.com>
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