The [renamed] subject says it all. Current pricing schemes in the the digital connectivity business these days reflect nothing, and I mean nothing, that has to do with nothing, and is indicative of nothing. All wrapped up for your Christmas shopping pleasure in nothingness. I hoped we all learned something here -- and that is, service providers are sometimes idiots. Sometimes even more than sometimes. But, hey, remember -- they have a lot to lose, too, so it makes 'em a bit crazy when everything they know changes.... No technical issues here, just marketroid & financial sleight of hand. We're all getting sucked into technical debates over money issues, basically, and it is rather discouraging to see engineering folk get all wrapped up in this crud. Move along -- nothing to see here. - ferg ps. I broke my [short] silence here because I think this is an important issue -- don't let these pukes pull the wool over your eyes on this crappola. -- JC Dill <lists05@equinephotoart.com> wrote: Internet end-users are paying a larger share of the costs of the system than broadcast radio or TV end-users are paying (which here in the US is 0%). [all good points, but -- snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/