Re: RBL Update (Re: Lets go vixie!! rbl)
The agreement Paul Vixie makes RBL users sign states that EXPLICITLY.
No.
You are not allowed to use the RBL unless you disclose such use fully to your customers and/or downstreams.
There is apparently some ambiguity surrounding my use of the verb "publish" in the RBL Subscriber Agreement. I will see that this is fixed in V2.1.
"Makes"... makes how? I simply enabled it in my sendmail configs and ran with it. Didn't even SEE where it mentioned that I *HAD* to go agree to stuff.
There is no requirement that anyone sign a license if they aren't subscribing, where "subscribing" means receiving it as an eBGP4 or DNS "feed". If you're using "FEATURE(rbl)" in sendmail 8.9.0, or a similar feature of other mailers, you're using the RBL but you're not a subscriber (and more power to you).
Dunno what the solution is, but I can see a somewhat real problem here.
The first line of complaint is the ISP who uses the RBL. If someone turns it on without notifying their customers / downstreams, they'll hear about it right quick. -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Many NANOG members have been around <paul@vix.com> longer than most." --Jim Fleming pacbell!vixie!paul (An H.323 GateKeeper for the IPv8 Network)
On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 07:04:12AM -0700, Paul Vixie wrote:
The agreement Paul Vixie makes RBL users sign states that EXPLICITLY.
No.
You are not allowed to use the RBL unless you disclose such use fully to your customers and/or downstreams.
There is apparently some ambiguity surrounding my use of the verb "publish" in the RBL Subscriber Agreement. I will see that this is fixed in V2.1.
Unfortunately, I can't even find the agreement now, so I can't comment. Probably because I just woke up.
"Makes"... makes how? I simply enabled it in my sendmail configs and ran with it. Didn't even SEE where it mentioned that I *HAD* to go agree to stuff.
There is no requirement that anyone sign a license if they aren't subscribing, where "subscribing" means receiving it as an eBGP4 or DNS "feed". If you're
Yup, I think this was a big part of my misunderstanding. I thought subscription included things like hacking Sendmail to do DNS lookups at the RBL site. -- Steven J. Sobol - Founding Member, Postmaster/Webmaster, ISP Liaison -- Forum for Responsible & Ethical E-mail (FREE) - Dedicated to education about, and prevention of, Unsolicited Broadcast E-mail (UBE), also known as SPAM. Info: http://www.ybecker.net
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