Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE!
--- goemon@anime.net wrote: or you can fix the problem that has been festering for 10+ years. ----------------------------------- Yeah, that. Why make it seem that v6 is the problem when it isn't. scott
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Scott Weeks wrote:
--- goemon@anime.net wrote: or you can fix the problem that has been festering for 10+ years. -----------------------------------
Yeah, that. Why make it seem that v6 is the problem when it isn't.
if arin would clamp down and revoke allocations that had provably wrong/fraudulent whois data, we would probably get 50% IPv4 space back. without incentives, we have proven it results in no action. -Dan
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2012, at 3:53 PM, goemon@anime.net wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Scott Weeks wrote:
if arin would clamp down and revoke allocations that had provably wrong/fraudulent whois data, we would probably get 50% IPv4 space back.
Part of the issue is how hard it is to update ARIN, they gladly take your money but it's like pulling teeth to get anything updated and sometimes you run out of teeth. I don't know if this is true about apnic, ripe and the others.
On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Steven Noble wrote:
Part of the issue is how hard it is to update ARIN, they gladly take your money but it's like pulling teeth to get anything updated and sometimes you run out of teeth.
Steve - Suggestions for improvement are welcome; either formally through the ARIN suggestion process <https://www.arin.net/app/suggestion/> or directly to me. We're happy to make it easier to you to update this info, but need to know how you'd like us to do that. With respect to updating Whois, it is true that many ISPs do not update their sub-delegations until applying for their next IPv4 block. Whether this is also the case with IPV6 or not remains to be seen, but given IPv6 allocation size, it would not be good. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
On Jun 15, 2012, at 6:53 PM, John Curran wrote:
On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Steven Noble wrote:
Part of the issue is how hard it is to update ARIN, they gladly take your money but it's like pulling teeth to get anything updated and sometimes you run out of teeth.
Steve -
Suggestions for improvement are welcome; either formally through the ARIN suggestion process <https://www.arin.net/app/suggestion/> or directly to me. We're happy to make it easier to you to update this info, but need to know how you'd like us to do that.
I want to personally thank John for taking the time to look at my issue in private conversations. It is not super complex but once we get it resolved I will be more open to talking about it.
APNIC has a web based whois form that is pretty easy to drive. Jonathon
-----Original Message----- From: Steven Noble [mailto:snoble@sonn.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 June 2012 12:05 p.m. To: goemon@anime.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ZOMG: IPv6 a plot to stymie FBI !!!11!ONE!
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On Jun 15, 2012, at 3:53 PM, goemon@anime.net wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Scott Weeks wrote:
if arin would clamp down and revoke allocations that had provably wrong/fraudulent whois data, we would probably get 50% IPv4 space back.
Part of the issue is how hard it is to update ARIN, they gladly take your money but it's like pulling teeth to get anything updated and sometimes you run out of teeth.
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On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Jonathon Exley wrote:
APNIC has a web based whois form that is pretty easy to drive.
Yes, but data-entry tools which are viewed as secondary to the task at hand - i.e., address allocations - and which require interactive human participation to perform duplicative input don't tend to scale very well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com> Luck is the residue of opportunity and design. -- John Milton
In message <FA98E8A1-F50E-4951-AB63-A0BD1D54BDB6@arbor.net>, "Dobbins, Roland" writes:
On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Jonathon Exley wrote:
APNIC has a web based whois form that is pretty easy to drive.=20
Yes, but data-entry tools which are viewed as secondary to the task at hand= - i.e., address allocations - and which require interactive human particip= ation to perform duplicative input don't tend to scale very well.
APNIC has B2B over email. It should be possible to totally automate updating APNIC. http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/whois_search/using-whois/updating-whois/obje... -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Mark Andrews wrote:
APNIC has B2B over email. It should be possible to totally automate updating APNIC.
That's a much better option than the Web form. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com> Luck is the residue of opportunity and design. -- John Milton
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:53:48 -0700, goemon@anime.net said:
if arin would clamp down and revoke allocations that had provably wrong/fraudulent whois data, we would probably get 50% IPv4 space back.
50%? I'd have estimated 10-15% tops.
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