Yo All! Is it no longer required to monitor the postmaster@ ? Did RFC 822 and RFC 5321 get repealed? Or is M$ more special than the rest of us? RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." - Lord Kelvin Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 01:38:16 +0000 From: The Outlook.com Team <postmaster@outlook.com> To: <gem@rellim.com> Subject: Fw: gem : rellim541 This email address is not monitored. Please visit http://postmaster.outlook.com for information about sending email to Outlook.com, including troubleshooting information. If you are an Outlook.com user please visit http://answers.microsoft.com/ to learn more about our services, find answers to your questions, and share your feedback. Sincerely, Outlook.com Team Microsoft One Microsoft Way. Redmond, WA 98052, USA. Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more, please read our online Privacy Statement at http://privacy.microsoft.com
Postmaster@ is so widely spammed as to be useless. Standards, and even laws, can be overcome by reality. Witness the DoNotCall list. -mel beckman
On Jun 14, 2019, at 6:45 PM, Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
Yo All!
Is it no longer required to monitor the postmaster@ ?
Did RFC 822 and RFC 5321 get repealed? Or is M$ more special than the rest of us?
RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588
Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." - Lord Kelvin
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 01:38:16 +0000 From: The Outlook.com Team <postmaster@outlook.com> To: <gem@rellim.com> Subject: Fw: gem : rellim541
This email address is not monitored. Please visit http://postmaster.outlook.com for information about sending email to Outlook.com, including troubleshooting information. If you are an Outlook.com user please visit http://answers.microsoft.com/ to learn more about our services, find answers to your questions, and share your feedback.
Sincerely,
Outlook.com Team Microsoft One Microsoft Way. Redmond, WA 98052, USA.
Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more, please read our online Privacy Statement at http://privacy.microsoft.com
I wonder how much do-not-reply@ and similar is spammed? On June 15, 2019 at 01:47 mel@beckman.org (Mel Beckman) wrote:
Postmaster@ is so widely spammed as to be useless. Standards, and even laws, can be overcome by reality. Witness the DoNotCall list.
-mel beckman
On Jun 14, 2019, at 6:45 PM, Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
Yo All!
Is it no longer required to monitor the postmaster@ ?
Did RFC 822 and RFC 5321 get repealed? Or is M$ more special than the rest of us?
RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588
Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." - Lord Kelvin
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 01:38:16 +0000 From: The Outlook.com Team <postmaster@outlook.com> To: <gem@rellim.com> Subject: Fw: gem : rellim541
This email address is not monitored. Please visit http://postmaster.outlook.com for information about sending email to Outlook.com, including troubleshooting information. If you are an Outlook.com user please visit http://answers.microsoft.com/ to learn more about our services, find answers to your questions, and share your feedback.
Sincerely,
Outlook.com Team Microsoft One Microsoft Way. Redmond, WA 98052, USA.
Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more, please read our online Privacy Statement at http://privacy.microsoft.com
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Gary E. Miller wrote:
Is it no longer required to monitor the postmaster@ ?
Did RFC 822 and RFC 5321 get repealed? Or is M$ more special than the rest of us?
Not just M$ but Cloudflare too: https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse Worse is that you might need to complete a CAPTCHA just to get to that page, /me barfs -- S.C.
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, Gary E. Miller wrote:
Is it no longer required to monitor the postmaster@ ?
Did RFC 822 and RFC 5321 get repealed? Or is M$ more special than the rest of us?
It is monitored just not by humans and you did receive a response that could be useful though you didn't like it. Microsoft is hardly the only company that prefers web pages over e-mail these days. /mark
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 6:44 PM Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
Is it no longer required to monitor the postmaster@ ?
Did RFC 822 and RFC 5321 get repealed? Or is M$ more special than the rest of us?
Where have you been? The champions of the cause gave up years ago. http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/RFC-Ignorant-org-blacklist-closes... You could still try http://rfc-clueless.org/ but it doesn't look especially maintained. -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
I presume you were contacting them due to their (apparently) bogus SPF parsing? Seems they recently broke something and email servers I've been sending from for 10 years without much configuration change recently started getting generic SPF-looking failure messages (I guess they don't properly parse "+MX -ALL"?). Given the automated form linked at that page also returns garbage about how my IPs look fine and aren't blacklisted and there is no reason why mail shouldn't deliver (why bother having a box to put the error message?), can someone over there contact off-list? Matt On 6/15/19 1:44 AM, Gary E. Miller wrote:
Yo All!
Is it no longer required to monitor the postmaster@ ?
Did RFC 822 and RFC 5321 get repealed? Or is M$ more special than the rest of us?
RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588
Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." - Lord Kelvin
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 01:38:16 +0000 From: The Outlook.com Team <postmaster@outlook.com> To: <gem@rellim.com> Subject: Fw: gem : rellim541
This email address is not monitored. Please visit http://postmaster.outlook.com for information about sending email to Outlook.com, including troubleshooting information. If you are an Outlook.com user please visit http://answers.microsoft.com/ to learn more about our services, find answers to your questions, and share your feedback.
Sincerely,
Outlook.com Team Microsoft One Microsoft Way. Redmond, WA 98052, USA.
Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more, please read our online Privacy Statement at http://privacy.microsoft.com
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