Re: KPNQWEST cease operation?
Anyone who isn't in the process of moving away from KQ/Ebone is in deep trouble and should act now to ensure you get on the list of an alternative nearer the top than the bottom. I've heard reports from various parts of Europe about issues and in todays FT it looks like the network will be shutdown by the NOC employees unless the company is bought outright!
What I wonder is what they mean by "shutdown". If this means that the equipment is unplugged, then how many of these alternate providers will suddenly discover that they have a dependency on an Ebone SDH/SONET ADM or an Ebone DWDM box? If management at these alternate providers is just hunting through their databases looking for KPN/Qwest dependencies they probably won't see the complete picture. KQ only completed the Ebone acquisition back in March and about a year earlier, Ebone was doing business under the name GTS or Global Telesystems. Most people who bought wavelengths or leased lines from Ebone would have done it under those names and most of those companies were carriers or network operators. This could get interesting. Personally, I hope that the NOC employees in Brussels succeed in getting potential buyers to realize the value of a functioning cross-border fiber network that covers all of Europe. Michael Dillon ex-Ebone
What I wonder is what they mean by "shutdown". If this means that the equipment is unplugged, then how many of these alternate providers will suddenly discover that they have a dependency on an Ebone SDH/SONET ADM or an Ebone DWDM box? If management at these alternate providers is just hunting through their databases looking for KPN/Qwest dependencies they probably won't see the complete picture. KQ only completed the Ebone acquisition back in March and about a year earlier, Ebone was doing business under the name GTS or Global Telesystems. Most people who bought wavelengths or leased lines from Ebone would have done it under those names and most of those companies were carriers or network operators.
This could get interesting. Personally, I hope that the NOC employees in Brussels succeed in getting potential buyers to realize the value of a functioning cross-border fiber network that covers all of Europe.
Michael, I can't imagine a single carrier that doesn't know that HER=GTS=EBONE=KQ. [Certainly by the volume of orders I've seen somebody knows ! :D] Regards, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking neil@DOMINO.ORG
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:37:04 BST, Neil J. McRae said:
Michael, I can't imagine a single carrier that doesn't know that HER=GTS=EBONE=KQ. [Certainly by the volume of orders I've seen somebody knows ! :D]
You're only seeing orders from the ones who know. The others you'll find out about at 8AM the next business day after KP's network goes dark. ;) -- Valdis Kletnieks Computer Systems Senior Engineer Virginia Tech
Hi, Is anyone having problems in the EU with IPSEC. Not sure it is related to everyone bailing on KPNQWEST, but it sure seems like a coincidence. I have a large concentration of users in Germany that can't connect, as well as Milan now. Meanwhile, US and other countries in the EU are just fine. Users report they used to go through KPN and worked fine, now are taking other paths. I'm trying to form a pattern here, and more data-points would be great. We have already ran the gambit on PPPoE issues and other MTU related client-side fixes, as well as firmware w/ DSL routers/bridges. Seems to affect dialup, ISDN, DSL, etc. thanks, craig Craig Holland Net-Worker Yahoo! Inc. Y!Messenger: cholland PGP Key: wwwkeys.us.pgp.net
Hi. We lost connectivity between UK and Germany via e-bone last night. Does anyone experience similar problem? And if anyone knows what actually took place in e-bone, let me know please. Thanks in advance. Ryouichi Yatabe On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:23:26 +0800 "Craig Holland" <cholland@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
Hi,
Is anyone having problems in the EU with IPSEC. Not sure it is related to everyone bailing on KPNQWEST, but it sure seems like a coincidence. I have a large concentration of users in Germany that can't connect, as well as Milan now. Meanwhile, US and other countries in the EU are just fine.
Users report they used to go through KPN and worked fine, now are taking other paths. I'm trying to form a pattern here, and more data-points would be great.
We have already ran the gambit on PPPoE issues and other MTU related client-side fixes, as well as firmware w/ DSL routers/bridges. Seems to affect dialup, ISDN, DSL, etc.
thanks, craig
Craig Holland Net-Worker Yahoo! Inc. Y!Messenger: cholland PGP Key: wwwkeys.us.pgp.net
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