mea culpa, mea maxima culpa :-( my intention, when suggested that reading, was to get your attention about that recent attack which targeted DNS top-level servers and to listen your opinions. i promise not to post porn, ops, FUD material to nanog again. Abraços, Marlon Borba, CISSP, DataCenter Associate Técnico Judiciário - Segurança da Informação TRF 3ª Região (11) 3012-1683 -- 1997-2007 - Dez Anos da DSUP. Conhecimento Gerando Soluções. --
Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com> 14/2/2007 15:01:09 >>>
bortzmeyer@nic.fr (Stephane Bortzmeyer) writes:
It may be on-topic but it is full of FUD, mistakes and blatant b...t. Certainly not the recommended reading for the sysadmin.
i think you're being way to kind here.
The best stupid sentence is the one asking firewalls in front of the DNS servers... to prevent tunneling data over DNS!
just as the most common lie told by spammers is "dear friend", so it is that the biggest error in this piece is in the first sentence: When it comes to the Web's domain name system (DNS), this guy was probably writing netware-vs-smb comparisons during the two decades that the internet existed before the web came along. the web is an internet application, and the dns is part of the internet, not part of the web. the rest of the article is equally horrific in its maltreatment and ignorance of facts. -- Paul Vixie
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, MARLON BORBA wrote:
my intention, when suggested that reading, was to get your attention about that recent attack which targeted DNS top-level servers and to
i thought it was actually covered on-list... during the event, no?
listen your opinions. i promise not to post porn, ops, FUD material to nanog again.
no one said anything about porn...
On 14-Feb-2007, at 13:38, Chris L. Morrow wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, MARLON BORBA wrote:
my intention, when suggested that reading, was to get your attention about that recent attack which targeted DNS top-level servers and to
i thought it was actually covered on-list... during the event, no?
I don't think it was especially covered on this list (you are no doubt thinking of other lists). There was a lightning talk about it in Toronto, for which slides can be found in the usual place. Joe
I don't think it was especially covered on this list (you are no doubt thinking of other lists). There was a lightning talk about it in Toronto, for which slides can be found in the usual place.
or I was thinking 'nanog meeting' not 'nanog list' :( oh well.
Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info> writes:
i thought it was actually covered on-list... during the event, no?
I don't think it was especially covered on this list (you are no doubt thinking of other lists). There was a lightning talk about it in Toronto, for which slides can be found in the usual place.
I think between the list and the lightning talk, it got the level of attention it deserved. ---rob
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 04:22:44PM -0200, MARLON BORBA wrote:
mea culpa, mea maxima culpa :-( my intention, when suggested that reading, was to get your attention about that recent attack which targeted DNS top-level servers and to listen your opinions. i promise not to post porn, ops, FUD material to nanog again.
Abraços,
Marlon Borba, CISSP, DataCenter Associate Técnico Judiciário - Segurança da Informação TRF 3ª Região (11) 3012-1683 -- 1997-2007 - Dez Anos da DSUP. Conhecimento Gerando Soluções. --
what is interesting to me is the "ripple" effect - kind of like the childrens game of "telephone". second, third, and fourth hand interpretation of the events allows the reporter to project their own worst nightmares onto the event ... for some, its a way to raise the spector of fear, giving them credence or the opportunity to market their particular services to the huddled, fearful masses. and to borrow a line from another bit of this thread, http and dns are both applications. applications are vulnerable to attacks that exploit the underlaying protocols. the BEST we can do, w/o replacing IP & TCP/UDP is instrument the applications to alert us that there is a problem. And the actions you (as the target of packet love) take may make your local life manageable, (compartmentalization) can have devestating impact on your peers/neighbors. so don't worry, your posts seem fine to me --bill
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