Sign-On Letter to the Court in the FCC's Net Neutrality Case
Dear colleagues, Apologies in advance for the spam, but as many of you know, several large ISPs and their industry organizations are challenging the FCC's recent net neutrality order in court. Since the outcome of this case could have real consequences for how Internet services work in the future, I'm writing you today to ask you to sign on to a letter that EFF and ACLU have prepared for the court. The letter explains several key engineering concepts that are vital to understanding how the Internet actually operates (e.g. the end-to-end principle, the layered network stack, how IP routing works, etc.). It also stays away from legal arguments, and instead focuses on the technical arguments for how net neutrality has been key to the design and operation of the Internet since its beginning. It also lays out the technical consequences that could occur should the FCC's order be struck down, focusing on how large ISPs could transform the Internet from a system where innovation can take place without permission to one where ISPs get to dictate what protocols and services their customers are allowed to use. /*If you're willing to sign on and help today, please email me directly (off list) */and I will be happy to share a copy of the letter for you to review before you agree to sign on. The more signatures we can get, the more likely the court is to take notice. All it takes is an email. Please help us make sure the court gets the message: from an engineering point of view, neutrality and openness are fundamental to the way the Internet operates today. Thank you for your support, -- | Jeremy Gillula, Ph.D. | Staff Technologist | Electronic Frontier Foundation | (415) 436-9333 x158 | jeremy@eff.org | @the_zeroth_law | GPG Key Fingerprint: | 4DCF A726 7C7D E327 7DD6 | 863E A25B 3CE6 2CAC 7BE9
/*If you're willing to sign on and help today, please email me directly (off list) */and I will be happy to share a copy of the letter for you to review before you agree to sign on.
Why don't you just send us a copy or a link? If you're planning to file it as an amicus it's not like it's going to be a secret for very long. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
i read it, its rather good. -e On 9/12/15 12:45 PM, John Levine wrote:
/*If you're willing to sign on and help today, please email me directly (off list) */and I will be happy to share a copy of the letter for you to review before you agree to sign on. Why don't you just send us a copy or a link? If you're planning to file it as an amicus it's not like it's going to be a secret for very long.
Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
Why don't you post a copy here or a link? The message seems good; the process is broken. Beckman On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
i read it, its rather good.
-e
On 9/12/15 12:45 PM, John Levine wrote:
/*If you're willing to sign on and help today, please email me directly (off list) */and I will be happy to share a copy of the letter for you to review before you agree to sign on. Why don't you just send us a copy or a link? If you're planning to file it as an amicus it's not like it's going to be a secret for very long.
Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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On 9/16/15 11:12 AM, Peter Beckman wrote:
Why don't you post a copy here or a link?
https://www.eff.org/files/2015/09/14/eff-aclu_internet_engineers_and_pioneer... I've agreed.
William Allen Simpson wrote:
On 9/16/15 11:12 AM, Peter Beckman wrote:
Why don't you post a copy here or a link?
https://www.eff.org/files/2015/09/14/eff-aclu_internet_engineers_and_pioneer...
I've agreed.
Me too. Be sure to actually read the Amicus brief - it's incredibly well written and informative. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
I signed on as well, but why didn’t the EFF at least publish the letter to the list? It was well written and laid out, even for politicians. Personally, I would have included some VoIP stuff that’s well known about, but "que sera, sera”. The main point being if you want people to sign up, show your cards and let people make the business decision whether that will effect their present situation first. Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222
On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:41:52AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Me too. Be sure to actually read the Amicus brief - it's incredibly well written and informative.
I've signed on as well and strongly concur with Miles' recommendation.
---rsk
Snbbb Sent from my Porsche Design P´9982 smartphone from BlackBerry. Original Message From: Rich Kulawiec Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:25 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Sign-On Letter to the Court in the FCC's Net Neutrality Case On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:41:52AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Me too. Be sure to actually read the Amicus brief - it's incredibly well written and informative.
I've signed on as well and strongly concur with Miles' recommendation. ---rsk
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