Re: Interesting new dns failures
--------------johnl@iecc.com wrote:--------------------
the bits of governments that deal with online crime, spam, etc., I can report that pretty much all of the countries that matter realize there's a problem, and a lot of them have passed or will pass laws whether we like it or not. So it behooves us to engage them and help them pass better rather than worse laws.
Which countries are "pretty much all of the countries that matter"? Do you have a list or is this just 'something you're sure of'? scott
On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:08:44 PDT, Scott Weeks said:
--------------johnl@iecc.com wrote:--------------------
the bits of governments that deal with online crime, spam, etc., I can report that pretty much all of the countries that matter realize there's a problem, and a lot of them have passed or will pass laws whether we like it or not. So it behooves us to engage them and help them pass better rather than worse laws.
Which countries are "pretty much all of the countries that matter"? Do you have a list or is this just 'something you're sure of'?
A lot of the more nefarious uses of the DNS are there precisely because the actual country *doesn't* matter, and as a result the TLD is run by somebody who is asleep at the wheel or worse. For instance, there appears to be a '*.cm' wildcard in place, and several "flag of convenience" TLDs with a high ratio of users that aren't actually associated with the country...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:08:44 PDT, Scott Weeks said:
--------------johnl@iecc.com wrote:--------------------
the bits of governments that deal with online crime, spam, etc., I can report that pretty much all of the countries that matter realize there's a problem, and a lot of them have passed or will pass laws whether we like it or not. So it behooves us to engage them and help them pass better rather than worse laws.
Which countries are "pretty much all of the countries that matter"? Do you have a list or is this just 'something you're sure of'?
A lot of the more nefarious uses of the DNS are there precisely because the actual country *doesn't* matter, and as a result the TLD is run by somebody who is asleep at the wheel or worse. For instance, there appears to be a '*.cm' wildcard in place, and several "flag of convenience" TLDs with a high
cameroon outsourced their dns infrastructure management to someone, that contract includes a "we can answer X for all queries that would return NXDOMAIN'" ... that's not 'asleep at the wheel' so much as 'not a good idea' (except for click revenue I suppose). This is different from .cx? or .tv how?
ratio of users that aren't actually associated with the country...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 20:31:59 -0000, "Chris L. Morrow" said:
cameroon outsourced their dns infrastructure management to someone, that contract includes a "we can answer X for all queries that would return NXDOMAIN'" ... that's not 'asleep at the wheel'
As I said, "asleep at the wheel or worse"...
On Fri, 25 May 2007 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 20:31:59 -0000, "Chris L. Morrow" said:
cameroon outsourced their dns infrastructure management to someone, that contract includes a "we can answer X for all queries that would return NXDOMAIN'" ... that's not 'asleep at the wheel'
As I said, "asleep at the wheel or worse"...
ha :) as always, perfectly cynical :) I think my point was that someone in cameroon (or acting on their official behalf, perhaps pocketting some cash along the way, who knows?) made a decision that this is 'ok' with them. -Chris
who is asleep at the wheel or worse. For instance, there appears to be a '*.cm' wildcard in place, and several "flag of convenience" TLDs with a high
cameroon outsourced their dns infrastructure management to someone
In this case, the someone is in Vancouver B.C., and Canada is most definitely part of LAP. There are plenty of domains of convenience, but I don't see a lot of bad guys physically decamping to Cameroon or the Cocos islands. R's, John
On 5/26/07, Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
--------------johnl@iecc.com wrote:--------------------
the bits of governments that deal with online crime, spam, etc., I can report that pretty much all of the countries that matter realize there's a problem, and a lot of them have passed or will pass laws whether we like it or not. So it behooves us to engage them and help them pass better rather than worse laws.
Which countries are "pretty much all of the countries that matter"? Do you have a list or is this just 'something you're sure of'?
Quite a long list. http://www.londonactionplan.net/?q=node/5 -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
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