[whoisdatabase@hotmail.com: Re: Network Solutions Lists] (fwd)
The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information. For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith. ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real! -ls- (LS11)
Forwarded message from James Rishaw <jamie@dilbert.ais.net>
Ugh! There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database... -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. jamie at ais dot net infrastructure engineering "I will NOT go to a party with a version number." -davidr << End forwarded message
On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 07:59:43PM -0500, Larry Snyder wrote:
write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith. ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real! -ls- (LS11)
Complain to EZnet (looks like they host the website) and e-i too (e-i has an open relay with a broken Sun implementation of Sendmail that doesn't stamp the IP address of the originating machine.) I have to agree with Larry. You need to have public access to the database... it's a double edged sword. I *would* let Network Solutions know about this geek, since said geek seems to be attempting to leverage the NetSol name for his own financial gain. Content-Description: Forwarded message from whoisdatabase@hotmail.com
From: whoisdatabase@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:33:48 GMT To: internicwhois@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Network Solutions Lists
We can show you how to generate so much traffic, that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server! That's right!
Cool. Initiate a DoS attack on your own web server. :D Morons... (the spammers, not the people complaining :) -- Steve Sobol [sjsobol@nacs.net] Part-time Support Droid [support@nacs.net] NACS Spaminator [abuse@nacs.net] Proud resident of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, the coolest place on earth. http://www.ClevelandHeights.com
At 10:30 PM 12/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
Complain to EZnet (looks like they host the website) and e-i too (e-i has an open relay with a broken Sun implementation of Sendmail that doesn't stamp the IP address of the originating machine.)
Note that is EZnet, not enterzone.net: [root@Overkill /]# traceroute www.targetedlists.com traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 209.41.244.2 @ eth0 traceroute to redirect.vdirect.com (208.157.147.83), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 border-core0-eth1.Columbus.EnterZone.Net (209.41.244.1) 0.617 ms 0.523 ms 0.455 ms 2 core1-eth0-ENTERZONE.Columbus.fnsi.net (209.115.127.21) 1.028 ms 0.910 ms 0.813 ms 3 border1-atm6.Chicago.fnsi.net (209.115.127.226) 6.812 ms 8.143 ms 7.838 ms 4 aads.mci.net (198.32.130.12) 491.237 ms 46.901 ms 26.091 ms 5 aads.mci.net (198.32.130.12) 33.045 ms 21.640 ms 25.143 ms 6 core3-hssi1-0.WillowSprings.cw.net (204.70.1.197) 14.381 ms 15.987 ms 15.976 ms 7 core1.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.4.181) 30.023 ms 32.887 ms 32.003 ms 8 border4-fddi-0.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.64.35) 31.930 ms 32.649 ms 32.158 ms 9 ez-net-inc.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.68.14) 75.019 ms 48.042 ms 54.948 ms 10 208.157.147.83 (208.157.147.83) 48.145 ms 48.798 ms 47.213 ms
We can show you how to generate so much traffic, that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server! That's right!
Cool. Initiate a DoS attack on your own web server. :D
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On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 07:59:43PM -0500, Larry Snyder wrote:
The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information. For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith. ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real! -ls- (LS11)
I just noticed on the last catalog I got from Dell in the mail, that they are walking the Database too. Because it is addressed to a fantasy name I used for one of my domains.
Forwarded message from James Rishaw <jamie@dilbert.ais.net>
Ugh!
There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database...
-- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. jamie at ais dot net infrastructure engineering
"I will NOT go to a party with a version number." -davidr
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Received: from eagle.ais.net (root@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by dilbert.ais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18307 for <jamie@dilbert.ais.net>; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:40:42 -0600 (CST) From: whoisdatabase@hotmail.com Received: from hq.qual.net (hq.qual.net [209.57.200.33]) by eagle.ais.net (AIS/NET) with ESMTP id QAA09181 for <jamie@ais.net>; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:40:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from hera_in.e-i.net (osiris.e-i.net [193.57.116.140]) by hq.qual.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02179 for <jamie@iagnet.net>; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from default by hera_in.e-i.net (8.8.5/SMI-SVR4) id WAA86964; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:33:48 GMT Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:33:48 GMT Message-Id: <199812122233.WAA86964@hera_in.e-i.net> To: internicwhois@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Network Solutions Lists
Hi,
According to our records, you have at least one domain registered with Network Solutions, aka The Internic.
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Please do not be offended by this email. This is not a mass spam mailing. Your email address is on an Opt-In list of domain owners who are interested in increasing their website traffic.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Makes you wonder if the guy who was going to sell the CD's of the whois database might have had some of them make it to market, either before or after they shut down. Didn't NetSol say they took measures to keep people from sequentially mining the database? - - James D. Wilson - -----Original Message----- On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 07:59:43PM -0500, Larry Snyder wrote:
The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information. For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith. ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real! -ls- (LS11)
I just noticed on the last catalog I got from Dell in the mail, that they are walking the Database too. Because it is addressed to a fantasy name I used for one of my domains. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use <http://www.nai.com> Comment: All Spammers Are Thieves - Jail Them Now iQA/AwUBNnNQnzAufbtGOmgdEQJu1gCfWWeHavtZdElfQcJW/Fn0nSx3Rq4AmwYE jtmG1G0h41bTq8ci4XAkCbuk =IVyZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 12/12/98, "James D. Wilson" <netsurf@sersol.com> wrote:
Makes you wonder if the guy who was going to sell the CD's of the whois database might have had some of them make it to market, either before or after they shut down.
There are other folks selling that database also, but they aren't quite as blatant about it.
Didn't NetSol say they took measures to keep people from sequentially mining the database?
They said they did. I haven't tried mining it to check. -- J.D. Falk <jdfalk@cp.net> "Smoke me a kipper, boys, Special Agent In Charge (Abuse Issues) I'll be back by breakfast." Critical Path, Inc. -- Red Dwarf
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Ulf Zimmermann