If anyone can message me off list it would be great. We were originally told the service would be shut off in July. All of the accounts were disabled June 9. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
We worked with dozens of service providers to get their email services migrated, AFAIK no one got an extension. I was told directly that it was possible to have an extension because Google was pulling down the entire system. I'd advise: 1) Make sure your domain TTL's are fairly low so you can change your MX record and have the world get that update shortly there after. 2) Find an alternative email provider, preferably someone who has done transitions to and from Google before. 3) Start communicating with your customers, AFAIK their email, address books, and calendars aren't available and won't be. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If anyone can message me off list it would be great.
We were originally told the service would be shut off in July. All of the accounts were disabled June 9.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
That's all we're after, customers' emails. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:12 PM, "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
We worked with dozens of service providers to get their email services migrated, AFAIK no one got an extension. I was told directly that it was possible to have an extension because Google was pulling down the entire system. I'd advise:
1) Make sure your domain TTL's are fairly low so you can change your MX record and have the world get that update shortly there after.
2) Find an alternative email provider, preferably someone who has done transitions to and from Google before.
3) Start communicating with your customers, AFAIK their email, address books, and calendars aren't available and won't be.
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman < josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If anyone can message me off list it would be great.
We were originally told the service would be shut off in July. All of the accounts were disabled June 9.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
From what I have been able to see from an outsider's point of view, they tore down the virtual machines that held those emails and while I doubt
Josh, they scrubbed the hard drives, they're not available in "commercially reasonable way". No ISP I've worked with has been able to get access to emails, settings, address books, or anything else since early in June and that's not from lack of trying. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
That's all we're after, customers' emails.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:12 PM, "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
We worked with dozens of service providers to get their email services migrated, AFAIK no one got an extension. I was told directly that it was possible to have an extension because Google was pulling down the entire system. I'd advise:
1) Make sure your domain TTL's are fairly low so you can change your MX record and have the world get that update shortly there after.
2) Find an alternative email provider, preferably someone who has done transitions to and from Google before.
3) Start communicating with your customers, AFAIK their email, address books, and calendars aren't available and won't be.
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman < josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If anyone can message me off list it would be great.
We were originally told the service would be shut off in July. All of the accounts were disabled June 9.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
From what I have been able to see from an outsider's point of view, they tore down the virtual machines that held those emails and while I doubt
There was an inquiry about this just the other day. They got theirs turned back on. Check the archives for the Google contact. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> To: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:36:54 AM Subject: Re: Google Apps for ISPs Josh, they scrubbed the hard drives, they're not available in "commercially reasonable way". No ISP I've worked with has been able to get access to emails, settings, address books, or anything else since early in June and that's not from lack of trying. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
That's all we're after, customers' emails.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:12 PM, "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
We worked with dozens of service providers to get their email services migrated, AFAIK no one got an extension. I was told directly that it was possible to have an extension because Google was pulling down the entire system. I'd advise:
1) Make sure your domain TTL's are fairly low so you can change your MX record and have the world get that update shortly there after.
2) Find an alternative email provider, preferably someone who has done transitions to and from Google before.
3) Start communicating with your customers, AFAIK their email, address books, and calendars aren't available and won't be.
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman < josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If anyone can message me off list it would be great.
We were originally told the service would be shut off in July. All of the accounts were disabled June 9.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Our Google Apps for ISP's is still up and running. We were told end of July for end of service date. I was under the impression though that there were different dates for different customers originally, but I know we're still up and running on it. --Andrew --Andrew Duey WideRange Broadband LLC Direct: 402-327-1101 andrew.duey@widerangebroadband.net http://widerangebroadband.net On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
There was an inquiry about this just the other day. They got theirs turned back on. Check the archives for the Google contact.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> To: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:36:54 AM Subject: Re: Google Apps for ISPs
Josh,
From what I have been able to see from an outsider's point of view, they tore down the virtual machines that held those emails and while I doubt they scrubbed the hard drives, they're not available in "commercially reasonable way".
No ISP I've worked with has been able to get access to emails, settings, address books, or anything else since early in June and that's not from lack of trying.
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman < josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
That's all we're after, customers' emails.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:12 PM, "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
We worked with dozens of service providers to get their email services migrated, AFAIK no one got an extension. I was told directly that it was possible to have an extension because Google was pulling down the entire system. I'd advise:
1) Make sure your domain TTL's are fairly low so you can change your MX record and have the world get that update shortly there after.
2) Find an alternative email provider, preferably someone who has done transitions to and from Google before.
3) Start communicating with your customers, AFAIK their email, address books, and calendars aren't available and won't be.
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman < josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If anyone can message me off list it would be great.
We were originally told the service would be shut off in July. All of the accounts were disabled June 9.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Yes, demanding on your annual contract. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 19, 2015 6:44 PM, "Andrew Duey" <andrew.duey@widerangebroadband.net> wrote:
Our Google Apps for ISP's is still up and running. We were told end of July for end of service date. I was under the impression though that there were different dates for different customers originally, but I know we're still up and running on it.
--Andrew
--Andrew Duey
WideRange Broadband LLC Direct: 402-327-1101 andrew.duey@widerangebroadband.net http://widerangebroadband.net
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
There was an inquiry about this just the other day. They got theirs turned back on. Check the archives for the Google contact.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> To: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:36:54 AM Subject: Re: Google Apps for ISPs
Josh,
From what I have been able to see from an outsider's point of view, they tore down the virtual machines that held those emails and while I doubt they scrubbed the hard drives, they're not available in "commercially reasonable way".
No ISP I've worked with has been able to get access to emails, settings, address books, or anything else since early in June and that's not from lack of trying.
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman < josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
That's all we're after, customers' emails.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 18, 2015 12:12 PM, "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
We worked with dozens of service providers to get their email services migrated, AFAIK no one got an extension. I was told directly that it was possible to have an extension because Google was pulling down the entire system. I'd advise:
1) Make sure your domain TTL's are fairly low so you can change your MX record and have the world get that update shortly there after.
2) Find an alternative email provider, preferably someone who has done transitions to and from Google before.
3) Start communicating with your customers, AFAIK their email, address books, and calendars aren't available and won't be.
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms --------------------------------
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman < josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If anyone can message me off list it would be great.
We were originally told the service would be shut off in July. All of the accounts were disabled June 9.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
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