bill> How about you? Have you created one in _your_ metro? [clip] bill>A business model that shafts everyone else on the net so that you can bill>make more money? How do the extant MIXes fare, economically? No, not post-NSF subsidized NAPs, but the 'purely' independant ventures. I can grok most of the numbers involved in these but the ones beginning with $'s. Cheers, Joe Provo Network Operations Center UltraNet Communications, Inc.