still seeing decent ping times. anyone detect an actual outage or issue? thanks.
I saw that link when I googled for TAT-14. I was looking more for a "see, I told you so" link that I can forward to management that provides proof that this is why our UK office is down...if you know what I mean.
Here's an interesting explanation of undersea cabling: http://davidw.home.cern.ch/davidw/public/SubCables.html
-Jack
--- Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
This is a basic map of the fiber path for those that haven't found one yet.
http://www.kddiscs.co.jp/e/business/02_15.html
- jared
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:32:16AM -0800, Jack McCarthy wrote:
Anyone have additional info regarding this outage? Links? Besides
tat-14.com
- it seems to be down or just flooded with requests.
-Jack
--- jmalcolm@uraeus.com wrote:
The northern leg of TAT14 seems to have just taken an outage about an hour ago. As the southern leg was already down due to other faults, this will probably be an exciting time for many providers.
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In a message written on Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 07:24:27PM +0000, garrett.allen@comcast.net wrote:
still seeing decent ping times. anyone detect an actual outage or issue?
Best info we have is that there are two outages. One has existed for the last 3 weeks or so between Tuckerton (New Jersey) and Bude (UK). It takes out the "southern path" across the atlantic. There is a second outage between Bude (UK) and Katwijk (NL). For circuits that landed in London or France this (should have) taken out the redundant path for those circuits. Circuits from Tuckerton (New Jersey) or Manasquan (New Jersey) to Katwijk (NL), Norden (DE), or some city in Denmark who's name I forget should still be up on the northern path. So, if you're in London or France your circuits are likely to be down, however some people in those locations used Contentinal capacity to link up to Katwijk, in which case they might still be operational. Both problems are undersea issues, so don't expect speedy resolution if you are down. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org
Here's the official word we received: "The outage on TAT-14 Segment I is on-going. This segment is on the European side between the Netherlands and France, effecting traffic to UK, Ireland, France, and other areas in Europe. This is the 2nd failure on this ring cable which has caused the protection path to fail. The International Restoration Team is working an ad-hoc restoration which will take several hours. They have already restored some VC4 facilities and this work is on-going." -Jack --- Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org> wrote:
In a message written on Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 07:24:27PM +0000, garrett.allen@comcast.net wrote:
still seeing decent ping times. anyone detect an actual outage or issue?
Best info we have is that there are two outages. One has existed for the last 3 weeks or so between Tuckerton (New Jersey) and Bude (UK). It takes out the "southern path" across the atlantic.
There is a second outage between Bude (UK) and Katwijk (NL). For circuits that landed in London or France this (should have) taken out the redundant path for those circuits.
Circuits from Tuckerton (New Jersey) or Manasquan (New Jersey) to Katwijk (NL), Norden (DE), or some city in Denmark who's name I forget should still be up on the northern path.
So, if you're in London or France your circuits are likely to be down, however some people in those locations used Contentinal capacity to link up to Katwijk, in which case they might still be operational.
Both problems are undersea issues, so don't expect speedy resolution if you are down.
-- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org
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Is there not sizeable UK<->FR capacity through the Chunnel? That seems like such an easy win, I'd assume everyone else thought of it years ago.. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
On Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 08:32:50PM -0500, David Lesher wrote:
Is there not sizeable UK<->FR capacity through the Chunnel?
Yes, I believe there's a sizable amount of fiber going through the service tunnel of the Chunnel (hence the much reduced cost of fiber from UK to Europe these days). Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1628 407720 (x(01)37720) | Si fractum Technology Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1628 407701 (x(01)37701) | non sit, noli BBC Internet Ops | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk | id reficere BBC Technology, Maiden House, Vanwall Road, Maidenhead. SL6 4UB. UK
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On Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 08:32:50PM -0500, David Lesher wrote:
Is there not sizeable UK<->FR capacity through the Chunnel?
Yes, I believe there's a sizable amount of fiber going through the service tunnel of the Chunnel (hence the much reduced cost of fiber from UK to Europe these days).
Well, when they first deployed that tunnel fiber, you could pay a full undersea cable with the rent of one pair.... - - kurtis - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 iQA/AwUBP8w8xaarNKXTPFCVEQL9hwCgvkAwcGTJce4N1fzRCkJzS5xrR0EAoLIU MVHjggB6szrZ8CojbJj4Uk+8 =HF+C -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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In a message written on Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 07:24:27PM +0000, garrett.allen@comcast.net wrote:
still seeing decent ping times. anyone detect an actual outage or issue?
Best info we have is that there are two outages. One has existed for the last 3 weeks or so between Tuckerton (New Jersey) and Bude (UK). It takes out the "southern path" across the atlantic.
There is a second outage between Bude (UK) and Katwijk (NL). For circuits that landed in London or France this (should have) taken out the redundant path for those circuits.
Circuits from Tuckerton (New Jersey) or Manasquan (New Jersey) to Katwijk (NL), Norden (DE), or some city in Denmark who's name I forget should still be up on the northern path.
So, if you're in London or France your circuits are likely to be down, however some people in those locations used Contentinal capacity to link up to Katwijk, in which case they might still be operational.
I confirm that France is having some problem with TAT14. France Telecom International Backbone (Opentransit) is currently running with non TAT14 capacity (10G) and one oc48 direct to Copenhagen (that is ok). We (Opentransit) are currently not experiencing any congestion but are implementing a new 10G circuit to secure our topology until TAT14 is back to life (one leg at least).
Both problems are undersea issues, so don't expect speedy resolution if you are down.
Yep .. i heard days ... not hours :-( Vincent, Opentransit (France Telecom)
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