Leaving lurk.mode for one of my very rare comments here . . . I do watch quite a bit of the NANOG meetings and find them quite interesting. However, Tuesday's discussion/debate on IP6 was really a standout and I commend everyone involved for putting on your thinking caps and really mixing it up. As a non-network operator, my main concern is that if the ops community doesn't fix the routing problem, someone else with surplus resources and deficit clue is going to take a whack at doing so . . .  If I may venture a further opinion, Randy Bush's comment that deciding exactly what problem needs to be solved is a very key point. regards to all, I hope to attend in person again sometime soon fh portland, oregon