Bill Woodcock wrote: David Daley wrote: :> I would very much like to hear about "specific" needs for :> (provisioning) tools that would satisfy your needs : : : http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ops-operator-req-mgmt-02.txt I can't help but laugh at this worst case scenario. And I'm almost positive it's input from the NANOG participants and not the "Area Directors of Operations and Management" participants. Best-case is a group of programmers working alone in a fully-stocked lab environment with a testbed network of known and contained parameters and no time pressure. Worst case is a junior operator in the field, crouched in front of a rack of unidentified and undocumented equipment in a hot, dark, noisy machine room, with senior management yelling in both ears about thousands of customers out of service, and only a VT100 serial terminal at hand. Worst-case is far more common than best-case. *heh* :-) :-) scott